Talk Morgan Forums Community The Malvern Arms So did we all get the message tonight from Doris

That is a little gem that publication and the perfect tonic for these strange times..

As SALMO said, I'm glad I'm not in charge. It's so very easy for all the experts ( including all of us ) to put forward their ideas of what to do to combat this horrible virus but quite clearly we can't shut the country down again, we all depend on each other and a strong economy to provide the money for us all to exist, not least the much mentioned NHS.
I get really worried when I see all the holiday makers around here quite clearly thinking that they have escaped the cities and come to an area where thank goodness we have had very few cases of C-19 but what are they bringing with them? I don't believe that persistant hand washing and wearing masks is going to make the virus go away but it is better than noting but I do believe that another period of lock down is a waste of time as it only gives us a breathing ( bad pun I know ) space meanwhile more jobs are lost, more families fall into debt, more small companies go bust etc. As I said at the start, I'm glad I'm not in charge so perhaps we should give our politicians a chance ( never thought I would say that out loud ) and hope they can lead us out of this to a position where C-19 can be safely viewed as yet another virus that will be with us like all the others that are still out there waiting to pounce like TB, Ebola, and many others.

I am tending to agree, but what I think we are missing is a clear categorisation of the risks that we face, as individuals each with our own health, age, ethnic and social profiles, After all, there must be plenty of data out there. Those that have serious 'underlying' health issues or fall into 'vulnerable' categoriesare already notified but the rest are not clear about the risks to them and may explain why, in some instances they appear to be playing it very casually. There is however, no excuse for this as it is the risks to others that we should be concerned about.

In respect of the 10.00pm closing of pubs, I first thought that this was a futile gesture but on second thoughts I think that it is more to do with the later night time revelries in clubs and late night bars where hundreds of people crowd together until dawn. For those of us who have been caught up in this (Yes, OK it was my son's stag do in Blackpool, although I won't direct you to the video!) I was quite surprised at how many packed venues are visited in the course of a night. The 10.00pm closing isn't going to worry average pub goers who might be happy to site at socially distant tables and leave an hour earlier but it might stop the follow-on club scene.

That's a very good point I hadn't taken into account with the 2200 closing time that maybe they would be less likely to go on to a club (if they are still open).
Surely it makes sense that they like restaurants are closed too as we all know getting popped up leads to over friendly contact and general relaxation.

I'm not a local pub type but I gather from friends that ours is keeping going quite well and have bought in an awning to extend/increase the floor space to counteract, as I suspect several others have.

I wish all these businesses well it's a pretty dire time, I am concerned at the amount of visitors from allover that have descended on the area though, it's all an uncalculated risk that we hope won't end in tears for the vulnerable.

The underlying problem is human behaviour, which we all see on the roads every day.

Selfishness, arrogance, stupidity, ignorance, complacency. It's no different with covid.

If I went to a pub or restaurants I would connect with every person in that building, and everyone they had connected with in the previous two weeks, and so on.

For us who avoid socialising where possible anyway, this is an exposure to infection we don't have to take.

5000 cases a day show clearly the outcome of complacency.

That's the same window we are looking out of... why take unnecessary risks unless you have a liking for ICU.

It doesn't stop us walking and exploring, just away from the great unwashed.

As you know, I have absolute zero choice but to get exposed to hundreds of kids, other teachers, support staff and parents on a daily basis. We also have bin men coming into school, portaloo cleaners, sanitary waste cleaners etc.

Out of school I like to stay away from people as much as possible (same as before COVID), but if I'm putting myself at risk every day, it seems pretty pointless to stay at home like a prisoner in all my social time. As a result, I go to the pub every Friday evening. Just me and the Mrs - arrive at 6pm, couple of pints and go home. Book a table, have a quick natter with the bar staff (been a local for several years) and that's the limit of my engagement.

Saturday morning, I get on my Bike and go out to breakfast with 5 of my mates. Three of us work in schools, and another is a Nurse so again, at far less risk at breakfast than we are at work.

At the weekend, I always try and do 'something' to help me remember why I go to work all week. Shuttleworth last week, Zoo week before, off to Delapre Abbey this weekend. Again - we keep away from people, use bookings where possible and limit our social interaction to serving staff etc.

The new rules shouldn't affect stuff, just hoping that we don't go into further lockdown. However, I don't think that feckless crapweasle Boris would risk losing any more of his mates money.

Quote: Saturday morning, I get on my Bike and go out to breakfast with 5 of my mates. Three of us work in schools, and another is a Nurse so again, at far less risk at breakfast than we are at work.

Is that right though? If they are all at high risk different employments isn't one of you highly likely to be infected before being aware of it and pass it to the others in the group, who then take it back to their high risk employment places?

Genuine question, am I missing the logic or misunderstanding something?

Nick

Possibly. There is no physical contact, the tables are suitably socially distanced and santising regime is excellent. I'm at more risk in a shop/supermarket.

If all people would understand that reducing the risk of getting infected is the key against an epidemic spread than no regulations would be needed (assuming they react reasonable)