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News the other night was that Honda had stopped altogether, temporarily, due to supply chain delays. I understand plans are still on to close the Swindon plant altogether later this year.
Article in the latest online IET magazine is that Nissan are going to produce batteries for their EV, in the UK to avoid similar delays.


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Nissan's motives to move battery production to the UK also include the need to have UK/ EU manufacturing content in excess of a threshold.


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Factory stoppages are not a huge deal .. cars are not selling

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Honda are leaving the UK and the EU and not manufacturing at all in Europe. The UK :Japan trade deal reduces the former EU tariffs on Japanese imported car to zero within 6 years, may well suit Honda to just import assembled cars. The EU trade deal from memory did not allow Japanese supplied parts to be counted as part of the British content of UK assembled cars.........


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I think the supply chain shortages are COVID related disruption rather than changes due to BREXIT (?).


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Originally Posted by Barry M
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I’m not sure that JIT is any less green than old fashioned methods? Could you say why you think so, Barry?


JIT requires components to make many journeys (some long) before final assembly. Surely a more localised supply chain would eliminate this?
I think the days of rampant moneymaking may have peaked although business will have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the new era.


I think you might be mistaken in thinking that JIT somehow requires components to make many journeys. In fact they would have to make the same number of journeys as in a traditional situation, as this is governed by the location of facilities.
In fact JIT promotes the relocation of facilities next to the assembly factory, so the influence is to be ‘greener’. Manufacturers adopt JIT because it reduces waste in the system and thus uses fewer resources and is inherently greener.

Kawasaki operates a system where part loads of differing components are collected on a single lorry so that smaller batch sizes do not incur additional transport costs, I presume they all do this where necessary.

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Originally Posted by +8Rich
After all the doom mongers telling us all foreign manufacturers would leave our shores post the six letter word here is another example of how wrong the "experts" were and a good boost for the home workforce.


Of coarse we knew it was only the doom & Gloom lefties and remainers that speculated on this,
us locals were very much aware Nissan was already making big plans well before Brexit and
continued with their expansion right through the Brexit process.

Living in the area and having Customers and friends who work at the plant or a sub contract division
Knowthere has always been positivity.

The new bridge and road inafstructure says it all, more development of link roads to the main Ports for
export.

https://www.sunderland.gov.uk/article/14609/About-Northern-Spire

The bridge will allow all the export Cargo to cross the river and a brand new link road directly into the Docks will be complete shortly.


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Originally Posted by Barry M
Originally Posted by SFG
I’m not sure that JIT is any less green than old fashioned methods? Could you say why you think so, Barry?


JIT requires components to make many journeys (some long) before final assembly. Surely a more localised supply chain would eliminate this?
I think the days of rampant moneymaking may have peaked although business will have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the new era.


https://www.automotivelogistics.med...e-for-nissan-in-sunderland/15349.article

@ 500mtrs from Nissan Gates, I am aware that @ 2014 all JIT to Nissan Factory was reduced from 40mins to 20mins, hence a friend of mine had previously bought a 50000sqft factory in 2007 for £1.1M and sold 2016 for £6M, it is directly across the road from Vantec & Nissan, probably @
1mile from Factory Gates.

Although Sunderland Council has been Labour run for many years I do have to praise them for their efforts with making this work.

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Originally Posted by Dean-Royal
Of coarse we knew it was only the doom & Gloom lefties and remainers that speculated on this,
us locals were very much aware Nissan was already making big plans well before Brexit and
continued with their expansion right through the Brexit process.


Thanks not only to the deal that was done with the EU but also the £60m bung provided by the Government. If we hadn't got a deal, Nissan had made it very clear they wouldn't have been able to continue.

Let's hope something can be done for the fishing industry too.


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Originally Posted by SFG
Originally Posted by Barry M
Originally Posted by SFG
I’m not sure that JIT is any less green than old fashioned methods? Could you say why you think so, Barry?


JIT requires components to make many journeys (some long) before final assembly. Surely a more localised supply chain would eliminate this?
I think the days of rampant moneymaking may have peaked although business will have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the new era.


I think you might be mistaken in thinking that JIT somehow requires components to make many journeys. In fact they would have to make the same number of journeys as in a traditional situation, as this is governed by the location of facilities.
In fact JIT promotes the relocation of facilities next to the assembly factory, so the influence is to be ‘greener’. Manufacturers adopt JIT because it reduces waste in the system and thus uses fewer resources and is inherently greener.

Kawasaki operates a system where part loads of differing components are collected on a single lorry so that smaller batch sizes do not incur additional transport costs, I presume they all do this where necessary.

This is all case-specific. Globally, across all manufacturing sectors, JIT is hugely detrimental (IMO).

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