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As the limit can be over-ridden by the driver just by pressing the accelerator ... and the only downside being an onboard alarm ... it's not much different from the voluntary speed alarm you could set on Mrs Images Audi, other than you can't switch it off... hard to see how they could actually remotely interfere with the driver's ability to accelerate out of trouble without facing massive potential lawsuits for any resulting damage .... now, getting your car to snitch on you to the rozzers via wifi is a distinct possibility.
K Just imagine a stretch of road where there had been say a temporary 50 limit but that was now gone & the limit was 60. If the GPS sin't bang up to date that alarm would become very annoying. Keith's hit it right in my mind, in the future the cars GPS will be used to charge per mile driven and if you go over the limit then a fixed penalty turns up in the post, nice little earner! John, I already get that in our Volvo. It is supposed to show the posted speed limit using its front camera and GPS. But every now and again the limit changes and it gets caught out, indicating the wrong speed usually higher. Well Milord, it was actually the car telling me to go faster!
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Going to be interesting to see what happens given the chaotic application of temporary speed limits in the UK which often require you to vary speed by 20 mph from temprary sign to temporary sign. One sign says 50, next one is 60 then down to 40 and back up to 60 and then to a permanent 50 - all in half a mile without change of circumstances.
To a degree I wouldnt mind this new system coming about in built up areas because I often find that I dont know the speed limit at any one time, just drifting along with the flow of traffic. Nearly got caught by this issue 7 weeks ago ( hoping that the absence of an NIP in 7 weeks says I am OK) but my problem would be on the open road where I go faster than the limits assuming no plod or scameras.
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Howard, I got caught last week by a speed camera in a lay by on the A64 approaching Malton from York,at 0620, the road changes from a dual carriage way to single road which I assumed (wrongly) to be 60mph, It turns out that it was 50mph and I was clocked at 57mph.
Four days later a letter came asking who was the driver (my wife refused to take one for the team) it stated that North Yorkshire Police have a policy of only prosecuting at 10%+2mph which in my case is 57mph so it is a bad boys course for me I suppose.
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I don't intend this to sound negative, but as an American, it is amazing to me to see the way that the English accept the creep of the "nanny state" in so many areas of their lives without protest. Of course there is a population in our country that does the same, but we still have a large group of rebels that reject what we see as the increasing over reach of government control in our lives. It is stunning to me that on a forum dedicated to love of cars and driving, that there is no hue and cry against this type of system. Of course it's intent is to make the roads "safer" for our children, cyclist, pedestrians, etc... , that is always the promise. Maybe the safest thing would be to have the government provide little autonomous pods that bureaucrats allow us ride in when they deem it necessary for us to get to work, or another approved trip, all while taxing us to pay for their system and it's operators. (I'm sure they will be clean, neat, efficient, never break, and never have an accident)
I have visited your country many times and dearly love it and it's people, but I can't figure out how you so quickly and easily cede power to faceless and inefficient bureaucrats so that they can control every aspect of your lives for your betterment. Can't you do it best by doing it yourself? Don't you want control of where you go, and how you do it? In my opinion, government programs like this alway start our with lofty intentions, but quickly become a tangle of unmanageable rules and regulations that cost time and money to comply with, only to the benefit of those that enforce them. Again, not a criticism, but an observation from an outsider who loves visiting your special little island!
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I would imagine that just as "I wasn't paying attention so I didn't know the speed limit" is no defence, so "I assumed my car knew what it was doing so I didn't bother to check" would prove equally ineffective at getting one out of a speeding ticket.
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I don't intend this to sound negative, but as an American, it is amazing to me to see the way that the English accept the creep of the "nanny state" in so many areas of their lives without protest. Of course there is a population in our country that does the same, but we still have a large group of rebels that reject what we see as the increasing over reach of government control in our lives. It is stunning to me that on a forum dedicated to love of cars and driving, that there is no hue and cry against this type of system. Of course it's intent is to make the roads "safer" for our children, cyclist, pedestrians, etc... , that is always the promise. Maybe the safest thing would be to have the government provide little autonomous pods that bureaucrats allow us ride in when they deem it necessary for us to get to work, or another approved trip, all while taxing us to pay for their system and it's operators. (I'm sure they will be clean, neat, efficient, never break, and never have an accident)
I have visited your country many times and dearly love it and it's people, but I can't figure out how you so quickly and easily cede power to faceless and inefficient bureaucrats so that they can control every aspect of your lives for your betterment. Can't you do it best by doing it yourself? Don't you want control of where you go, and how you do it? In my opinion, government programs like this alway start our with lofty intentions, but quickly become a tangle of unmanageable rules and regulations that cost time and money to comply with, only to the benefit of those that enforce them. Again, not a criticism, but an observation from an outsider who loves visiting your special little island! Says someone who lives in a country run by the likes of Trump and now Biden.
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@Burgundymog- Well at least you took Meghan Markel off our hands. Come get a few more.
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@Burgundymog- Well at least you took Meghan Markel off our hands. Come get a few more. I think you'll find you took the Ginger Whinger off our hands and they are resident in the US of A on a permanent basis, for which we are eternally grateful, they are persona non grata on our shores...
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I don't intend this to sound negative, but as an American, it is amazing to me to see the way that the English accept the creep of the "nanny state" in so many areas of their lives without protest. Of course there is a population in our country that does the same, but we still have a large group of rebels that reject what we see as the increasing over reach of government control in our lives. It is stunning to me that on a forum dedicated to love of cars and driving, that there is no hue and cry against this type of system. Of course it's intent is to make the roads "safer" for our children, cyclist, pedestrians, etc... , that is always the promise. Maybe the safest thing would be to have the government provide little autonomous pods that bureaucrats allow us ride in when they deem it necessary for us to get to work, or another approved trip, all while taxing us to pay for their system and it's operators. (I'm sure they will be clean, neat, efficient, never break, and never have an accident)
I have visited your country many times and dearly love it and it's people, but I can't figure out how you so quickly and easily cede power to faceless and inefficient bureaucrats so that they can control every aspect of your lives for your betterment. Can't you do it best by doing it yourself? Don't you want control of where you go, and how you do it? In my opinion, government programs like this alway start our with lofty intentions, but quickly become a tangle of unmanageable rules and regulations that cost time and money to comply with, only to the benefit of those that enforce them. Again, not a criticism, but an observation from an outsider who loves visiting your special little island! You voice one of the many aspects of Americans that I admire. I wish I could think of an effective way of fighting...take our recent "Smart Motorways"fiasco. Six of the most ordinary fellows in a Pub could have predicted what a cock up it would turn out to be....but how to protest? Nick
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This was a bit of a shocker last weekend, we were doing 70 when without warning this switched on ![[Linked Image]](https://www.tm-img.com/images/2021/08/27/IMG-20210821-WA0022.jpg)
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