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planenut #737963 04/04/22 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by planenut

That whole back end does look very familiar to a M3W owner. ABS and/or traction control looking at the rear wheel sensor? A wider axle with a Continental made drive belt rather than the Gates. The bevel box looks externally the same although must have some better internals than the Quaife noise box, interchangeable maybe? An alloy single side swing arm would have been so much better although more costly I expect. Nice close fitting mudguard as standard?

From an engineering point of view Ian I think a single sided swing arm would work best with bevel box on the wheel, less so with belt drive.



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The BMW K models have a single sided swing arm, with a wheel Bevel Box. The single arm also houses the prop shaft. A neater mechanical solution at the wheel, but then you have the issue of the prop shaft angles (or just ignore it and plough it through the seat).

The K Bevel Box did have a habit of stripping its teeth needing replacement (even big manufacturers get it wrong)

The Honda GL1800 also use a single sided swing arm and wheel bevel box (as Larsen uses) and these are much more reliable, but again have the prop shaft issue.


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Originally Posted by TBM
The BMW K models have a single sided swing arm, with a wheel Bevel Box. The single arm also houses the prop shaft. A neater mechanical solution at the wheel, but then you have the issue of the prop shaft angles (or just ignore it and plough it through the seat).

The K Bevel Box did have a habit of stripping its teeth needing replacement (even big manufacturers get it wrong)

The Honda GL1800 also use a single sided swing arm and wheel bevel box (as Larsen uses) and these are much more reliable, but again have the prop shaft issue.


Yes I remember on the K1 I had years ago. On the negative side you have greater unsprung weight though and that weird rise 8n suspension when you accelerate, unless you have a floating BB with torque reaction back to frame.


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There must be a hell of a lot more sideways stresses and forces with a three wheeler than with a motorcycle that leans around corners.

Hugely expensive too



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Originally Posted by Viper
There must be a hell of a lot more sideways stresses and forces with a three wheeler than with a motorcycle that leans around corners.



One would think so, but when leaned over bump forces are transmitted with only partial dimunition by the suspension.

What is hugely expensive?


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Originally Posted by Noah
Originally Posted by Viper
There must be a hell of a lot more sideways stresses and forces with a three wheeler than with a motorcycle that leans around corners.



One would think so, but when leaned over bump forces are transmitted with only partial dimunition by the suspension.

What is hugely expensive?


Bevel box



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Originally Posted by Noah

One would think so, but when leaned over bump forces are transmitted with only partial dimunition by the suspension.


To clarify, that means that the wheels are being hammered sideways by bumps.


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Lets hope Phil Bleasey makes us some mounting hardware to mount up that new bevel box, to replace our air-raid sirens. I know that the racket that mine emits makes driving the car more than 45 minutes a chore.


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Good morning all,

Does anybody have any news on the Super 3. Since the launch it all seems to have gone very quiet and as far as I know there are none at the dealers yet.

Anybody know anything?


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Originally Posted by JJR
Good morning all,

Does anybody have any news on the Super 3. Since the launch it all seems to have gone very quiet and as far as I know there are none at the dealers yet.

Anybody know anything?



I was at the factory on the 2nd April, and they hadn't got the production 'line' set up for them yet, so I imagine it'll be a while.

I think they had one on show at the Salon Prive event in London.


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