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To be fair it's not just caster that affects steering self centering, king pin inclination (KPI) plays its part too. And its not just the front either, for example increasing rear toe in tends to ensure the car tries to straighten up. Steering geometry is a complex science, one adjustment element can influence what you're trying to achieve with another, this is why the car is going to Techniques.
I should also be clear that the lack of self centring isn't horrible by any means, I've only had Monty for 8 weeks now and Ive already covered over 2,000 miles in him including a run to the Le Mans Classic and back and lots of other trips where the car has been put through its paces to fully apraise Monty's handling and steering dynamics which has been enormous fun.
While steering geometry is indeed a complex science I like to start at the beginning with the basics, this has to start with the tyres, unsurprisingly the 11 year old original 195/60 Yokohamas were like wood so changing them for 185/65 Continentals made a huge difference. Its also likely the grease has gone hard in the upper and lower joints due to age and lack of use, a few pumps with a grease gun to purge out tge old grease and or a couple of new XJ6 ball joints/track rod ends may be all it needs.
I'm sure Techniques have a pair of tables so the general mechanical resistance in the steering and all the geometry settings can be assessed with the suspension loaded up with the weight of the car, so I'll let them review and report back.
Last edited by Montegue; 12/08/22 05:34 PM.
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They’re not xj6 ball joints….
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What are they then Simon?
Thanks mate.
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They were custom made for the conversion
When I designed the wishbone conversion it was the best option I’m some way through a completely redesigned version using more off the shelf components
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They were custom made for the conversion
When I designed the wishbone conversion it was the best option I’m some way through a completely redesigned version using more off the shelf components I hope that it becomes a reality before too long, I'm sure it would make a step change in the capabilities and comfort of driving a trad. Maybe its not for everyone, But something I'm seriously considering to improve my Roadster's ride and capabilities. Being a 4 seater its highly unlikely that Morgan will ever produce them again, so I want to make the most of it, within reasonable £ bounds.
22 Plus Four KIMI 12 Plus 4 Sport OZZY 08 Roadster FELIX 06 4/4 70th LOKI 77 4/4 SEAMUS 85 4/4 MOLLY
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And here it is..... ![[Linked Image]](https://i.ibb.co/4FQgGPB/20220811-202227.jpg) The rear is sorted too.... ![[Linked Image]](https://i.ibb.co/h780yrC/20220811-202255.jpg) That looks perfect. Real vintage vibe.
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Okay on the vintage look, but both front and rear aren't actually legal
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Okay on the vintage look, but both front and rear aren't actually legal I wondered how long this would take, I’m surprised the subject didn’t pop up earlier. I used to have these plates but got rid as I was fed up with the “are they legal” comments at shows 
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Okay on the vintage look, but both front and rear aren't actually legal First post: Project Monty continues at pace, sat looking at him last night while nursing a beer I decided he needed his front numberplate on the offside front wing in white digits over a black square (I do know this is not legal).
"Y mae dafad ddu ym mhob praidd" 1972 4/4, 1981 MGBGT, 1984 FLHT1340, 1980 XLH1000, 1990 ZX10
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Yes chaps, as I was clear to point out in my opening post.... definitely not legal  My bad, my risk, my choice  While I'm having my confessional, I need to let you all know I did 76mph on the M11 last week, Monty and I are clearly one of the UK's most dangerous criminal partnerships 
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