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I very much doubt that CX vehicles would ever be so bad in terms of retardation or pedal travel such that it would warrant an advisory or even a comment from MOT tester.

Vagaries of handbrake efficiency on Aero's and ARP4 with rear disc braking are more likely to be noticed however. I may have missed but thankfully can't recall any complaints of handbrake efficiency on CX series though.

There was a thread Richard

Plus 4 CX Hand Brake

Thanks Clemens - and a thread in which I participated
Put it down to

Thankfully not all CX models suffered from poor handbrake though, so maybe setup rather than design.

Asked my dealer about the brakes yesterday when I picked up my PlusFour.

1. demonstration vehicles MY2023 are available in Germany only from mid-March.
2. my PlusFour MY 2022, one of the last ones built, has four piston brakes in the rear and front. I'm going to take a wheel off this weekend and check it out.
3. if I thought the brakes were not good, harder brake pads can be used. I had a good impression of the brakes on my short ride of 120 kilometers yesterday. The pedal stroke is short, the pressure point is good and I had the braking performance was good. But this is only a first impression and now the car is in winter sleep in my garage
4. the dealer told me in the conversation that with the first delivered PlusSix vehicles the brakes were very bad. But this has been fixed in the meantime.

Answer all not the question of Kerry

In general terms harder/ racing pads are less efficient when cold and thus require more pedal pressure to slow down when not up to temperature, thus perhaps not ideal for city type traffic situations or when just cruising around the countryside...? Whether compounds have changed since my last involvement with hard pads to improve their efficiency when cold... ???

That sounds very positive and absolutely credible, Clemens. I wish you and your Plus Four all the best as soon as you can enjoy it in the spring.

Hi Clemens
Many thanks.
Certainly sounds like MMC are on top of the brake situation on latest models. I'm sure that the problems with pedal travel and soft feel can be solved on the earlier Plus Six models. Mine is still at the dealers, however the weather in NZ has been wet and windy and certainly not what you want for driving a Morgan! Hopefully summer will finally arrive!
Kerry

After the master cylinder upgrade, as others have reported above, I noticed a slight improvement in the brake pedal feel; it's not as squishy as before.
But, not all the time. After driving for a while (30 minutes or so) the pedal noticeably gets spongy again. The funny thing is that if the car is given a decent rest it firms up. This leads me to believe it is heat related - possibly the rubber in the master vacuum warming up? That corner of the engine bay does get pretty hot.
Anybody else noticed this? Only me?

After washing my car the braking is very good , pedal is very strong no travel , and abs works on dry road . But after two or three braking it is gone the pedal is soft again.
Those cars have lot of personality

Thierry - That sounds like air in the system somewhere to me, anyone else agree?