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Originally Posted by ProfessorM
Originally Posted by FUT37
Random question - those who have taken delivery do you know the dimensions of the spotlights? Any model name or part number on the cibie unit?

I might be wrong but I think they are these ones:
https://www.demon-tweeks.com/uk/cibie-mini-oscar-led-lamp-990409/
Cibie Mini Oscar LED Lamp
130mm diameter
Cibie product code 45300 (I think)


What are you trying to achieve? Or you looking to retro fit.

At £468 plus delivery plus unique brackets and fitted it makes no sense.

At £579 on the configurator fitted etc



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You could go PIaa 80 series with 100 watt bulbs transformed our plus 4....

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Originally Posted by Viper
Originally Posted by ProfessorM
Originally Posted by FUT37
Random question - those who have taken delivery do you know the dimensions of the spotlights? Any model name or part number on the cibie unit?

I might be wrong but I think they are these ones:
https://www.demon-tweeks.com/uk/cibie-mini-oscar-led-lamp-990409/
Cibie Mini Oscar LED Lamp
130mm diameter
Cibie product code 45300 (I think)


What are you trying to achieve? Or you looking to retro fit.

At £468 plus delivery plus unique brackets and fitted it makes no sense.

At £579 on the configurator fitted etc




No not looking to retrofit - I ordered mine with spotlights.


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I had the belt drive adjusted today. The squealing noise has now gone under all levels of load. The belt was out of alignment which caused the noise. Hopefully this will be useful for people who have the same noise on their Super 3s.

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this is good news I think that the new B-Boxes are better machined and that it does not reproduce the same stupidity of 1/2 reduction, the new reduction is 1.947 or 19 teeth for 37 teeth which allows it to work all the teeth of the pinion on all the teeth of the crown, this will add about 5 km / h if it is mounted on a m3w 5 speed.

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Originally Posted by Barkbark
I had the belt drive adjusted today. The squealing noise has now gone under all levels of load. The belt was out of alignment which caused the noise. Hopefully this will be useful for people who have the same noise on their Super 3s.

Thanks for the update BarkBark, very useful info and it's encouraging to hear that they've fixed the issue. Interesting that you say the squealing was due to mis-alignment, I am wondering if my wayward steering/handling issue might be related to a mis-aligned rear wheel - hence the squealing on my car... My car is being examined at the factory tomorrow so I'll see what they say.


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Originally Posted by GLLOQ
this is good news I think that the new B-Boxes are better machined and that it does not reproduce the same stupidity of 1/2 reduction, the new reduction is 1.947 or 19 teeth for 37 teeth which allows it to work all the teeth of the pinion on all the teeth of the crown, this will add about 5 km / h if it is mounted on a m3w 5 speed.


Aha! So part of the problem with the current bevel box is down to lack of prime number gearing?

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Originally Posted by GLLOQ
this is good news I think that the new B-Boxes are better machined and that it does not reproduce the same stupidity of 1/2 reduction, the new reduction is 1.947 or 19 teeth for 37 teeth which allows it to work all the teeth of the pinion on all the teeth of the crown, this will add about 5 km / h if it is mounted on a m3w 5 speed.


Aha! So part of the problem with the current bevel box is down to lack of prime number gearing?




If Quaife made the M3W bevel boxes for Morgan, surely they would have known of this potential problem and avised something other than an exact 1/2 reduction.....??!!

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Originally Posted by GLLOQ
this is good news I think that the new B-Boxes are better machined and that it does not reproduce the same stupidity of 1/2 reduction, the new reduction is 1.947 or 19 teeth for 37 teeth which allows it to work all the teeth of the pinion on all the teeth of the crown, this will add about 5 km / h if it is mounted on a m3w 5 speed.

I would love to know what this comment means, GLLOQ. A poor gear would be if the mating surface was only used 50%. But amount of reduction in the gearing is irrelevant?


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Originally Posted by GLLOQ
this is good news I think that the new B-Boxes are better machined and that it does not reproduce the same stupidity of 1/2 reduction, the new reduction is 1.947 or 19 teeth for 37 teeth which allows it to work all the teeth of the pinion on all the teeth of the crown, this will add about 5 km / h if it is mounted on a m3w 5 speed.

Known as "hunting tooth" gear sets in the UK. Each tooth chases then gets to touch each on the other in the set after a certain number of revolutions, evening out wear particularly where loads vary in a consistent manner. Fully explained here particularly regarding prime number and mutually prime number gearing.


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