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I’m 5 feet 8 inches (yes, short!) and have had no issues with visibility, but agree if I try to look only through the little screens on the Super 3, there is some distortion. I don’t think there is any failure by Morgan, they serve their purpose and work well.
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I'm 5' 8" too - the distortion in the corners of the screens is no worse than the blind spots caused by the A pillars in my cars. Overall, I think the visibility 360 is far better! I adapted quickly - you have to just move your head and body a bit to see everything in the corners - all adds to the physicality of the Super 3!
Heron Grey & Typhoon British Green Super 3 SOLD Plus 6, Silver and tan.
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Getting no feedback from MMC, does anyone know what the front to back weight distribution is on the Super 3 vs the M3W? I assume it's @ 70-30. We are still waiting for the first Super 3 to cross the pond and no concrete time when they will start. My order is now more than one year old! Anxiously waiting!
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I’m 5 feet 8 inches (yes, short!) and have had no issues with visibility, but agree if I try to look only through the little screens on the Super 3, there is some distortion. I don’t think there is any failure by Morgan, they serve their purpose and work well. ] I'm 5' 8" too - the distortion in the corners of the screens is no worse than the blind spots caused by the A pillars in my cars. Overall, I think the visibility 360 is far better! I adapted quickly - you have to just move your head and body a bit to see everything in the corners - all adds to the physicality of the Super 3! As i said, if its not a problem for you then great but it is for her. She informs me that a recent medical has revealed that she is now 5` 7 and that an inch makes all the difference.Its also been enough of an issue for Dealers to be reporting concerns back to Morgan and for others to be planning a swap out. As far as Morgan design skills are concerned, imo, if had not been for the abilities of m3w owners and aftermarket suppliers to come up with substantial design improvements to the m3w, Morgan would not be building 3 wheelers today,such would have been the fall out. With regards to "pillar blind spots" and "the physicality of driving a S3" if you hit a car on the nearside, you will do some damage,if you do it in a 3 wheeler you may find yourself upside down on the wrong side of the road. Drive an m3w and then we will talk physicality. You guys are in the "honeymoon period" and as my childrens inheritence is down on one, i hope that period lasts for a very long time but lets see where we all are in 12 months!
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You guys are in the "honeymoon period" and as my childrens inheritence is down on one, i hope that period lasts for a very long time but lets see where we all are in 12 months! Nope, I knew what I was buying, that includes why I did not buy a M3W. My view is simple, if you’re going to moan about ‘this is and that is not good enough’, don’t buy it, and if you’re buying it for an investment, same applies - my Super 3 is for smiles, laughs and giggles, including it’s made by a tiny company and comes with the many ups and downs that entails.
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You guys are in the "honeymoon period" and as my childrens inheritence is down on one, i hope that period lasts for a very long time but lets see where we all are in 12 months! Nope, I knew what I was buying, that includes why I did not buy a M3W. My view is simple, if you’re going to moan about ‘this is and that is not good enough’, don’t buy it, and if you’re buying it for an investment, same applies - my Super 3 is for smiles, laughs and giggles, including it’s made by a tiny company and comes with the many ups and downs that entails. Any form of social media that only exists for lovies to say how wonderful everything is in the world would be a pretty boring place. If you do not want to read about complaints or observations re Morgan, i respectfully suggest that you are on the wrong forum.
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You guys are in the "honeymoon period" and as my childrens inheritence is down on one, i hope that period lasts for a very long time but lets see where we all are in 12 months! Nope, I knew what I was buying, that includes why I did not buy a M3W. My view is simple, if you’re going to moan about ‘this is and that is not good enough’, don’t buy it, and if you’re buying it for an investment, same applies - my Super 3 is for smiles, laughs and giggles, including it’s made by a tiny company and comes with the many ups and downs that entails. Could not agree more BarkBark!. Well said. My 'physicality' might not be as awesome as certain M3W owners, but hey, it's not a contest (is it?!).
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BarkBark, your line of thought seems very similar to mine when I thought that a Morgan might suit the priorities I had in place circa 25 years ago, a time when I had become used to the efficiencies of Porsche air cooled engineering, over a few decades previously... I suspect few if any who take the time to research that which living with a Morgan might be like will have expectations of the highest quality in terms of automotive engineering, which can be more than compensated for in the fun factor and the open door to many an automotive adventure.... Each to their own.
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You guys are in the "honeymoon period" and as my childrens inheritence is down on one, i hope that period lasts for a very long time but lets see where we all are in 12 months! Nope, I knew what I was buying, that includes why I did not buy a M3W. My view is simple, if you’re going to moan about ‘this is and that is not good enough’, don’t buy it, and if you’re buying it for an investment, same applies - my Super 3 is for smiles, laughs and giggles, including it’s made by a tiny company and comes with the many ups and downs that entails. Could not agree more BarkBark!. Well said. My 'physicality' might not be as awesome as certain M3W owners, but hey, it's not a contest (is it?!). Absolutely, it most definitely is not a competition, as a collective i have no doubt that the Ownership group want the Super 3 to be a success. For what its worth i am sure it will be. However there does appear to be early contenders within the super 3 owners section for positions of high office within the Club Morganista. Since posting my wife`s issue, i have received a couple of messages from very generous individuals who have shared their observations and how they intend to address the issue. Which was exactly the point of posting it. Being critical of an item or a company is not an attack on the end users buying judgement.
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...Since posting my wife`s issue, i have received a couple of messages from very generous individuals who have shared their observations and how they intend to address the issue. Which was exactly the point of posting it. ...
Good stuff. The M3W followed a similar development (eg the Fairbourne screen, eventually followed by the full screen option from Morgan). Good luck with your modifications / updates and please of course report back with TM forums to share your developments! Personally I wish Morgan was less sensitive about its "small company small capabilities" - there is nothing wrong with them outsourcing stuff, and there is no need to be secretative about it IMHO. For example, if they shared who they outsourced things like screens and wheels with, then owner sponsored development *could* be easier. A classic case is with the front wheel supplier - pretty sure a few Super 3 owners might be interested in other variations of the wheel design, like wire wheels, and the OEM might be interested in fulfilling them. No risk to Morgan, but not something they encourage...
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