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Originally Posted by Lordofthewings
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Do you have any problems reaching and operating the handbrake ?

This is probably me being a numpty, but I haven't yet figured-out how to use the Mog fly-off handbrake to hold the car on a hill ????

Same as you do when using it on the level. Pull the lever back and push the button to lock. If parking on a hill, I'd also leave it in gear.


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Learnt the hard way not to use/trust the hand brake when jumping out of the car to post a letter on a hill with the engine running. Plus 4 started slowly rolling down the hill - luckily managed to jump in and use foot brake.

Only use fly off with engine off and in gear and preferably level.


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Originally Posted by TBM
Same as you do when using it on the level. Pull the lever back and push the button to lock. If parking on a hill, I'd also leave it in gear.

Yeah, it's me being a numpty. So here I am in a conventional car, approaching a T-junction on a hill. In a car with manual transmission, with my left hand I use the handbrake to progressively hold the car on the hill, while slipping the clutch and getting ready to pull way in first. It's that sequence I have failed to master with the fly-off, as it doesn't seem to have a progressive action.


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Originally Posted by Lordofthewings
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Same as you do when using it on the level. Pull the lever back and push the button to lock. If parking on a hill, I'd also leave it in gear.

Yeah, it's me being a numpty. So here I am in a conventional car, approaching a T-junction on a hill. In a car with manual transmission, with my left hand I use the handbrake to progressively hold the car on the hill, while slipping the clutch and getting ready to pull way in first. It's that sequence I have failed to master with the fly-off, as it doesn't seem to have a progressive action.

The fly-off should work in the same way - the principles are the same, handbrake cable pulling on a lever system on the rear drums/discs. On hill starts/junctions I tend to hold the car on the handbrake with my left hand (without pressing the button) but with clutch disengaged and in gear. When moving off I release the handbrake while engaging the clutch.

However I do the same in the MG which has a conventional handbrake. I struggle with the Mrs car as it's automatic and has autobrake and rubbish.


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Originally Posted by TBM
I struggle with the Mrs car as it's automatic and has autobrake and rubbish.
I hate the autobrake/hill start facility on modern cars.


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I’ve always wondered, why fit a fly off hand brake where you can’t reach it without leaning forward, it makes no sense


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[quote=Bonesie]
Do you have any problems reaching and operating the handbrake ?

No.
I think it is because you guys are on the (wrong/right) hide (right/wrong) side of the car and need to grab around the gear lever.
We don't have that problem over here. drive


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Well I do... I had a 4/4 for 30 years with the handbrake on the left side of the tunnel. We now have a '98 4/4 that has the handbrake on the right side of the tunnel... So lots of flapping about un learning muscle memory!

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Originally Posted by MATTMOG
[quote=Bonesie]
Do you have any problems reaching and operating the handbrake ?

No.
I think it is because you guys are on the (wrong/right) hide (right/wrong) side of the car and need to grab around the gear lever.
We don't have that problem over here. drive
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There were obviously both versions of handbrake placing during the decades of production on RHD (and probably also LHD) cars.

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