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I have had other experiences Jon. The weight on the luggage rack were at 32 kg ( suitcase plus side screen ). The additional weld attached by the dealer on held for 2,000 km through Italy. The condition as far as potholes in Italy must be similar to those in the UK. And if I am to believe the discussions with Mrs PlusFour, I am not the one who is slow on the road.
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Even if you are within the 25kg limit on dead case weight when you go over a nasty bump or yomp at speed the dynamic weight and point load will increase significantly, hence owners shearing the welds Surely the dynamics are taken into account when a weight limit is given Jon ![[Linked Image]](https://series2club.co.uk/2023_new_forum/Smileys/wittsends/nixweiss.gif)
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Don’t think this bracket represents Morgan’s finest example of engineering design.
Full penetration laser welded equal flange tee sections in stainless steel are available off the shelf from certain steel suppliers in UK. This has to be both inherently stronger and cheaper than cutting/welding plates together.
An efficient tee bracket design normally adopts back plate and cantilever plate of equal thicknesses.
The screwed connection also looks suspect, as high tensile load will be induced in the screws by the very short lever arm resisting the bending moment applied to the bracket by the loaded luggage
Be interesting to see what Morgan’s replacement bracket looks like.
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Talked to our dealer ref the brackets. They have not recieved info regarding a recall for the brackets. Its on my own winter "to do" list anyway...
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Don’t think this bracket represents Morgan’s finest example of engineering design. I completely agree with you there, Chris. Even though my bracket is now well welded, I will mill a pair out of the solid when I have time over the winter.
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Completely agree but to add that there is a problem of one bracket becoming loose and placing extra stress loading on the tight side. This happened on my CX Four April 22, the tight side sheared , I removed both brackets and had them fully welded. But I had to replace 2 of the captive nuts in the chassis block. Certainly not an easy access job! So I now check the security of both brackets prior to loading even after fully welding.
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All, just to update this thread. If you are thinking of undertaking the rear valance removal procedure on a Plus Six to upgrade weld the luggage carrier brackets.
Be aware that there is an extra 10mm hex bolt in each rear wheel well that is located under the protective plastic liner on its inner side rear. It can not be seen without pulling slightly out the liner at the rear ( its stiff to do this ), it is aprox 15 cm up inside the liner and holds the outer upper side of the rear valance in position. The only way I could access these bolts without taking out the liners was to use a long 1/4" drive extension with its socket. Its still a piglet to get to and there is minimal room to do it, but can be done without liner removal. Once removed the rear valance comes out exactly as per this thread for a Plus Four.
Of note both the brackets on our Plus Six showed cracks in the weld, so would have failed. Also of note, do not make the new weld too big if welding down the 2 part bracket sides, as one side has to have the luggage rack bolted to it and there is minimal clearence where the luggage rack bolts in. Lastly, on our plus Six one bracket was slotted to be adjustable and one was not, so its wise to measure the gap between the two rear attachment brackets before you take them off, so you can reproduce the same distance apart on refitting.
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Has anyone any idea when the recall was issued? I'm in the process of ordering a luggage rack and don't want to attach to defective brackets.
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According to my dealer there is no recall.
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According to my dealer there is no recall. Same info.. thats why I went ahead and welded mine.
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