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Slightly odd one - the internet seems to think the various Aero versions have either a 55 litre tank or a 70 litre tank.

I've never run my S1 below about 1/4 tank but when i have i can brim the tank with about 40 litres.

I ask as i am taking it to Spain for a couple of weeks in April and i'd rather know how big the tank is so i can ascertain how close i'm getting to empty on the guage!

Thanks all.



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Originally Posted by verysideways
Slightly odd one - the internet seems to think the various Aero versions have either a 55 litre tank or a 70 litre tank.

I've never run my S1 below about 1/4 tank but when i have i can brim the tank with about 40 litres.

I ask as i am taking it to Spain for a couple of weeks in April and i'd rather know how big the tank is so i can ascertain how close i'm getting to empty on the guage!

Thanks all.



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Mine used to need a drink every 230 to 240 miles,the only thing you might have trouble passing in the Aero a petrol station. Em

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Originally Posted by verysideways
Slightly odd one - the internet seems to think the various Aero versions have either a 55 litre tank or a 70 litre tank. I've never run my S1 below about 1/4 tank but when i have i can brim the tank with about 40 litres.
I ask as i am taking it to Spain for a couple of weeks in April and i'd rather know how big the tank is so i can ascertain how close I'm getting to empty on the gauge!

Take your pick! (below) Sadly, I don't think even your owner's handbook gives the information you are looking for.
https://www.supercarworld.com/cgi-bin/showgeneral.cgi?174
http://www.morgancars.com.au/morgan/aerocoupe
https://www.cars-data.com/en/morgan-aero-8/fuel-tank-capacity
https://www.ultimatespecs.com/car-specs/Morgan/71797/Morgan-Aero-8-48.html

You are very prudent to fill at a level significantly before the fuel level indicates it is necessary. Internal pumps are very cheap, but also very vulnerable to fuel levels. The Factory, to my knowledge, never used in-tank fuel collectors so curves and steep inclines can perhaps excite a sad result. I have never seen the insides of Aero fuel tanks. A mystery.

After almost two decades, I designed a new crash proof tank for myself, removing my racing fuel cell I had fit to the car. And I switched to an external pump..which can be changed roadside in minutes without petrol messiness. Funny thing, after buying a chorus line of super expensive new external fuel pumps, all of which failed me on test drives , I found an inexpensive external version of the same internal pump I had been using. It works perfectly! However, I STILL have the habit of filling before the gauge tells meI must. 😉And, in my case, I have even adjusted the fuel level indicator to show empty 10 liters before it was! HABITS!!

My new tank's full highway range is a theoretic 350 miles (560 kms) which is impressive for a silly car with far too much bhp and with which fuel consumption was NEVER prioritized. Usage costs is not (for me) a common sense factor for a hobby.

I would guess your tank capacity at 55 litres from my own experience with the model and its Aero variant. I was provided with one of the first of them made by a UK friend in 2004. We spent 10 days crossing England back and forth with it in 2004. I have driven all the others, including spending much time with the first Aeromax. BTW, of the entire Aero model group (including the Aero Plus 8s), yours is my favorite, despite its teething problems and adorable quixotic looks. Like you, I like the rough and tumble of sports cars far more. As Chris Lawrence intended, yours is a true sports car and not a touring car as the others are. But this is matter of changing tastes both in the market at with the MMC Management after Chris left. My wife and I feel it is the only one of that model line that provides our 0car's reactivity, and the suspension, though not quite as comfy, is very pleasantly sporty. We were much less impressed with the Aeromax aside from its very Bugatti Atlantique looks, but the prototype went through a LOT. I am a sucker for the Atlantique and its many copies. I feel when the dust settles, the Series 1 will be fully appreciated, if it is not already.

BTW2, before I restricted gomog to trads-only-to-2004 almost 20 years ago and brought the rest down, I covered Aeros. If you need anything, I might have it. Feel free to contact me off-group when/if in need.

gmg

P.S. On convenient occasions, check the strap (S) holding the tank in place. If you don't have them on your car, add them. Cheap insurance according to the crash tests.

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When I first bought my S1 about 7 or 8 years ago I checked the fuel consumption on the long run home from the Morgan garage. I was amazed to be seeing around 30 mpg (using brimmed tank to brimmed tank method), admittedly with very little traffic & driving at moderate speeds as I was still aquainting myself with the car.

I've never had reason to check the fuel consumption again but I have always enjoyed driving the car with a sensible but entertaining right foot, as I just love the sound of my twin side exhausts I had fitted! Never had the fuel gauge give me cause for concern but as a matter of habit I never let it drop below 1/4 full. I am the same with my modern everyday car as well.

Just one question about your photo as the side of the road, are the crowd admiring the car or the lady with the bike?

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Originally Posted by Volvos60s60
Just one question about your photo as the side of the road, are the crowd admiring the car or the lady with the bike?
Probably wondering how she had a "one sock in, one sock out" wardrobe malfunction crazy2


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Originally Posted by Volvos60s60
When I first bought my S1 about 7 or 8 years ago I checked the fuel consumption on the long run home from the Morgan garage. I was amazed to be seeing around 30 mpg (using brimmed tank to brimmed tank method).....I've never had reason to check the fuel consumption again but I have always enjoyed driving the car with a sensible but entertaining right foot, as I just love the sound of my twin side exhausts I had fitted! Never had the fuel gauge give me cause for concern but as a matter of habit I never let it drop below 1/4 full. I am the same with my modern everyday car as well.

smile wink The manner manufacturers test for their cited official fuel mileages remind me of top speed testing of Japanese motorcycles when they first appeared in the 1970s. I remember the fellow being 40 kilos!

Mileage depends on how often and the manner your Morgan was used before you became its owner. Low mileage and rarely used engines perform poorly for the first few hundred miles from new or after a period of no or minimal usage. Each time I take mine out of storage, my mileage (4.8 liter Rover V8) spikes and my oil consumption plummets successively after each 100 mile period. This is normal for all engines, especially the big ones.

Bill Beck, the former Service Manager and then Development Chief at the MMC,once remarked to me that he discovered that the Rover/LR V8s were rarely bedded in properly with Plus 8s. They were babied too much during the all-important first 1000 miles. This was confirmed by other major engine sellers, like John Eales, Chris Crane...et al. Morgans are too light to provide sufficient load to properly create and deal with the cylinder/piston mating. frown2 And most of us follow the recommendations of the engine manufacturers. These V8 manufacturers only have experience with their MUCH heavier vehicles. With ultralight cars, these specialist chaps found that even after after many many miles, the cylinder walls had only "glassified" something that lowers power and mileage for a LONG time. They speculated it could take as much as 20,000 miles for the engines to reach their happy point! I have heard the same thing happen with other big engines in other hyper light cars. (shrug) I cannot see the Aeros being any different.

Instead I follow the advice of Mark Adams, the Tornado chip creator. I am more agressive than manufacturers recommend after installing a new or rebuilt unit. AAs a reward, my engine compression has not changed in more than 20 years, which may only be evidence of an overly pampering!

You are wise to fill up when you do. Internal pumps have two advantages.
A. They are comparatively VERY cheap and combined with a fuel level sender they save manufacturing man-hours.
B. Unless the fuel level is allowed to drop too much, they are constantly cooled by being immersed in fuel.

However, they are very delicate when NOt fully immersed. They can fatally overheat. Levels can change almost immediately by going up a hill or an aggressive curve. They are best used with a fuel collector, (aka a slosh box) which Morgans don't use AFAIK. Such collector thingies are a box (below) fed through one-way valves and always used by savvy race preparers. One places the fuel pickup or pump inside the box. Otherwise one must depend on internal baffling, which is unknown since the MMC abandoned the old tanks or by using foam. Foam is great, but makes roadside pump replacement unfun. (yuk!) I finally became annoyed and, with the assistance of Peter (Mulberry) designed my own tank which uses an external pump, which needs a precise setup. Luddite first helped me with that way back when. Canada, an economy dealing constantly with machinery repair, has more relaxed rules and skills for such creativity than other countries. BTW, foam filled tanks are as deadly as any aluminum tanks. For some reason, the UK never got into the world habit of using foam-filled deformable bladders. For that reason I shun ALL aftermarket tanks unless they are made of high quality stainless steel, which dents rather than tears. Aluminum also has a habit of very suddenly melting at relatively low temps..and worse.

Originally Posted by Volvos60s60
Just one question about your photo as the side of the road, are the crowd admiring the car or the lady with the bike?

laugh2 laugh2 The lady you refer to was a member of the admiring crowd, my wife is took the picture. I am the scruffy fellow in the middle. They certainly weren't admiring me!

Curious. Does your Aero have the fuel tank straps I have shown above? They were added after the crash tests results. I have learned to like them more than the industry custom of bolting down fuel tanks, without cushioning, to chassis. Though not at first. However, our dearly remembered Bill Fink, an American Morgan dealer and a close confident of Maurice Owen and Peter Morgan, explained that they worked better than the accepted custom, of bolting especially with Morgans.

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P.S. Forgive my focus on safety so often. I was in an Morgan incident decades ago that left me with a grandmotherly concern for my fellow moggers. smile

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Curious. Does your Aero have the fuel tank straps I have shown above? They were added after the crash tests results. I have learned to like them more than the industry custom of bolting down fuel tanks, without cushioning, to chassis. Though not at first. However, our dearly remembered Bill Fink, an American Morgan dealer and a close confident of Maurice Owen and Peter Morgan, explained that they worked better than the accepted custom, of bolting especially with Morgans.

Hi GMG, I can't say that I have checked whether straps are present, as I've not had cause to remove the trim panel, but perhaps I should


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