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It's probably a fair price for the car, I guess there are fees to add on?

Auction is the best way to find out exactly what your pride and joy is really worth, it can be quite an eye opener though. I've done it a couple of times, a 3.2 Carrera and a 4/4.

Each to their own, but they are better used than sat in a garage and polished........🤷🏻‍♂️

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Originally Posted by Treesurveyor
A 2003 35th anniversary +8 just closed at £25250 reserve met. .... Someone got a bargain

https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/2003-morgan-plus-8-35th-anniversary-8xRWMn
I see why it went for so little. The steering wheel is on the wrong side drive


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This is exactly why I like this "forum". So many varying views and experiences in actual ownership and use, irrespective of bragging rights on mods and "this is better than that".
I bought my +8 on the spur of the moment, never having considered owning such a car. Sure, it was built for my dad, and subsequently bought by my older brother from his estate, with whose demise I am intrinsically connected. A totally irrational and perhaps emotional purchase, and going by that auction result means I've lost a packet! But what I've got over the last 5 years and 80,000 miles is that these cars are something so different, the experience so far removed from the mainstream marque ownership, that is priceless. I'm not a Petrol head, I haven't owned or desired Jag's, Porche's or other high tier cars, and I certainly don't have the skills yet to do anything but nut and bolt maintenance, but it makes me want to do more. I even now have a 4/4 4 seater in the garage waiting for a re-chassis restoration so my teenage son can learn to drive in an "interesting" car (o.k maybe I'm trying to age proof my own mogging) Whichever way, I think they keep us "young", so who cares what that costs, or what they look like or how you enjoy them.


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Originally Posted by Treesurveyor
This is exactly why I like this "forum". So many varying views and experiences in actual ownership and use, irrespective of bragging rights on mods and "this is better than that".
I bought my +8 on the spur of the moment, never having considered owning such a car. Sure, it was built for my dad, and subsequently bought by my older brother from his estate, with whose demise I am intrinsically connected. A totally irrational and perhaps emotional purchase, and going by that auction result means I've lost a packet! But what I've got over the last 5 years and 80,000 miles is that these cars are something so different, the experience so far removed from the mainstream marque ownership, that is priceless. I'm not a Petrol head, I haven't owned or desired Jag's, Porche's or other high tier cars, and I certainly don't have the skills yet to do anything but nut and bolt maintenance, but it makes me want to do more. I even now have a 4/4 4 seater in the garage waiting for a re-chassis restoration so my teenage son can learn to drive in an "interesting" car (o.k maybe I'm trying to age proof my own mogging) Whichever way, I think they keep us "young", so who cares what that costs, or what they look like or how you enjoy them.

Totally agree. We are all driven (ha!) by different needs and agendas. Before 2013, working full time, and with a demanding Mother, this severely restricted my available hobby anything time. It was basically Sundays only and even then, interrupted by my Mother's needs.Then up to 2018, working three days did release more time, but not really equating to much "on the road" time. 2019 was Grandson time and so the next five years we were three nights in Derby most weeks.

My last classic daily driver was my Gilbern Invader, and that was 1991. My work from 2008 when I bought my Roadster did not really allow its use, because I was travelling large distances to pointless meetings and the train was the only option.
I envy those who are able to do a Morgan daily drive, but I also respect those who chose to do the Sunday pub run and not much else. I sold "something" to a Mog owner from a village near Gainsborough. It's maybe 30 miles away. He came over in his Mog and told me it was the longest journey he had done in it.

I would say that 80% of my Mog pleasure is garage based, but when I take my Mogs out, it's worthwhile. 50-100 miles is usual, and of course the best journeys are road trips which will exceed 1,000 miles in a week. I reckon there will always be enough nutters to support a Trad market. In a classic car market of stupid money for old Fords (for example), a £30k Trad is great value.


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Originally Posted by DaveW
a £30k Trad is great value.

Abso-bloomin-lutely. The number of people who fancy a Morgan and are prepared to spend £25-30k on a weekend toy must be orders of magnitude greater than those who can spend £80k. Not only are they affordable to buy, they are also maintainable by the average enthusiast.


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Bargain? Really? For a 21 year old 80000 mile car. The buyer could get a 911 for half that. I reckon you have your tinted Morgan glasses on.

What would it have cost new?

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Originally Posted by howard
Bargain? Really? For a 21 year old 80000 mile car. The buyer could get a 911 for half that. I reckon you have your tinted Morgan glasses on.

What would it have cost new?

Howard, whilst I understand your sentiments I would suggest a 911 for that kind of money, may leave an awful lot to be desired.


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Bargain? Really? For a 21 year old 80000 mile car. The buyer could get a 911 for half that. I reckon you have your tinted Morgan glasses on.

What would it have cost new?

Howard, whilst I understand your sentiments I would suggest a 911 for that kind of money, may leave an awful lot to be desired.

I'd suggest a Porsche for ten times the amount would also leave an awful lot to be desired. smile smile


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Originally Posted by howard
Bargain? Really? For a 21 year old 80000 mile car. The buyer could get a 911 for half that. I reckon you have your tinted Morgan glasses on.

What would it have cost new?

Picture 110 shows a total price of £42,055 with plates but then it has a few options fitted later so probably £45K, certainly would have been under £50K.

https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/2003-porsche-996-carrera-4-tiptronic-nQdlmg shows same year, similar miles and half the price which does prove you are right however there are other cars on the same website that could prove you wrong. But what would the maintenance cost on a 911 like that compared to a Morgan? Also while it has the right roof is fine it doesn't have a clutch pedal which removes it from my list of cars to buy.

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I suspect the risk factor in buying a 20 year old Porsche may be much higher that a 20 year old Morgan in terms of maintenance and repair, perhaps more so in that it seems early water cooled 911`s have been known to require whole engine replacement in what sees like a rather high parentage of production numbers...?

The amount of extra complexity involved in an old Porsche regardless of it`s initial build quality, kinda causes me to think back to the oft quoted line from the Clint Eastwood "Dirty Harry" film... Do ya feel lucky punk...etc.etc.etc. (-:

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