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Originally Posted by CooperMan
Tim, word of caution for your mate, please warn him to use some additional physical security like a steering wheel cover lock, as since Ford (I still don't get why ?) stopped production, they have become a huge attraction to nick and break for spares

Handy tip thanks Jon. I'll certainly pass it on.


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In the first month that Ford announced they were stopping production of the Fiesta over 100 were stolen from the Southend area !!!


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Crickey, I love my Titanium Diesel model had it from new via SIL who is management there and paid 7.5 k. It’s a 60 Reg and covered 97,000 trouble free miles at 55mpg a great little car and I will be sad when it has to go.
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Originally Posted by JohnHarris
I tend to think we forget that the reason why so many of us became 'hands on' were because cars back in the 60's/70's weren't really that reliable, they may have been easier to maintain, but they certainly were far more maintenance intensive than modern cars, even from new. From memory my TR7 required an inspection service every 3 months, I couldn't imagine doing the kind of miles back then I do between services in a modern car without ever lifting the bonnet between services with the exception of washer bottle refills.

Yes modern electrics are a pain, but I'll take them over much of the older cars electrics especially Lucas any day. Simple things like tyres have moved on some much, I remember one holiday my father had a puncture in the Wolsey 6/90 on the way to Barmouth. He got the inner tube patched as the garage didn't have a new tube, 8 times my father had to stop to re-glue the patch as it was really hot and the glue just would not go off and the patch just continually peeled away. They maybe now be fond memories, but at the time my father didn't bless the opportunity of a flat tyre presented to him repeatedly.

Kids today will have to do what many did back then when they couldn't afford a car and either use mates or shanks's pony. Unfortunately today people have to usually commuter further for work than in my day.

Correct. My first car was a Ford 100E compete with sidevalve engine and 3 speed box. At 17 a pal and I tool it to the continent - we broke down 3 times between Bradford and Dover. The car might have been simple but it was also totally unreliable and given half a chance it rotted overnight almost.

I reckon there is a sweetspot somewhere around the 90s. By that time cars were way more reliable but they were still made of bits that could be serviced and bits that someone with interest in cars could understand. Long before things like sat nav, lane assist etc. But even then, people with no interest in cars were manna from heaven to the garage trade as many people still are to the plumbers and electricians etc.

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I seem to recall my uni friends and I had an old Ford Prefect/Popular/Thames van in about 1966. It was a £25 heap with fablon sides keeping the rust together. Would ths have had the 100E engine? It certainly did not last too long..
All I know is that it struggled,to keep up with a friends Morris Minor Van, that had more gears and more Horsepower ? The other issue but don’t know if true, did the wipers work off some air system and slowed down to a stop as you accelerated..lIt made racing the Morris van always tricky.
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Mike, the wiper system you type of was engine vacuum operated, the secret was to lift off the throttle for long enough to clear the screen, before you accelerated again causing the wipers to slow down again....!

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…..yes that was the problem ……...it meant regularly being second in the race to Studley ! MM

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Originally Posted by Morganmike
I seem to recall my uni friends and I had an old Ford Prefect/Popular/Thames van in about 1966. It was a £25 heap with fablon sides keeping the rust together. Would ths have had the 100E engine? It certainly did not last too long..
All I know is that it struggled,to keep up with a friends Morris Minor Van, that had more gears and more Horsepower ? The other issue but don’t know if true, did the wipers work off some air system and slowed down to a stop as you accelerated..lIt made racing the Morris van always tricky.
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PS We used to race to various places but one was popular - Studley women’s farm sec (retary) college. Think it’s a Warners Hotel now. Happy days….
PPS used to buy cars through brokers but the Volvo came via a big multi Dealership. Hated all the suits, finance director nonsense, Nespresso and crèche but I did get a stonkingly good deal. Never went back but they have now bought my local Volvo dealers premises/business

The situp and beg Ford Pop had a basic 1172cc side valve E93A engine. Later versions with lower profile body used a 100E engine. This latter development, although still side valve and same capacity, had adjustable tappets (earlier version amazingly didn't), better bearings and sported an integral water pump, E93A relying on thermo-siphon cooling. Both had a bleed of inlet manifold pressure with the resultant vacuum (when available on light throttle) stored in a tank which in turn drove the matching wiper motor - an infamous system when ascending a hill in heavy rain when blades slowed to a stop.


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Originally Posted by howard
Originally Posted by JohnHarris
I tend to think we forget that the reason why so many of us became 'hands on' were because cars back in the 60's/70's weren't really that reliable, they may have been easier to maintain, but they certainly were far more maintenance intensive than modern cars, even from new. From memory my TR7 required an inspection service every 3 months, I couldn't imagine doing the kind of miles back then I do between services in a modern car without ever lifting the bonnet between services with the exception of washer bottle refills.

Yes modern electrics are a pain, but I'll take them over much of the older cars electrics especially Lucas any day. Simple things like tyres have moved on some much, I remember one holiday my father had a puncture in the Wolsey 6/90 on the way to Barmouth. He got the inner tube patched as the garage didn't have a new tube, 8 times my father had to stop to re-glue the patch as it was really hot and the glue just would not go off and the patch just continually peeled away. They maybe now be fond memories, but at the time my father didn't bless the opportunity of a flat tyre presented to him repeatedly.

Kids today will have to do what many did back then when they couldn't afford a car and either use mates or shanks's pony. Unfortunately today people have to usually commuter further for work than in my day.

Correct. My first car was a Ford 100E compete with sidevalve engine and 3 speed box. At 17 a pal and I tool it to the continent - we broke down 3 times between Bradford and Dover. The car might have been simple but it was also totally unreliable and given half a chance it rotted overnight almost.

I reckon there is a sweetspot somewhere around the 90s. By that time cars were way more reliable but they were still made of bits that could be serviced and bits that someone with interest in cars could understand. Long before things like sat nav, lane assist etc. But even then, people with no interest in cars were manna from heaven to the garage trade as many people still are to the plumbers and electricians etc.


I prefer the early 90's cars my favourite was my Mercedes E320 Cabriolet sportline, with the unleaded engine, ABS, power steering and first generation of traction control (which did have teething problems) . I also had a company car a '93 Mercedes E220 coupe first in the UK with dual airbags at the same time and that did 40k miles in 9 months without missing a beat. Great cars with a solid build quality and relatively simple compared to todays Mercedes. I had no idea what was going on under the bonnet as I never lifted it between services.


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Originally Posted by howard
Correct. My first car was a Ford 100E compete with sidevalve engine and 3 speed box. At 17 a pal and I tool it to the continent - we broke down 3 times between Bradford and Dover. The car might have been simple but it was also totally unreliable and given half a chance it rotted overnight almost.
Not my first car but I had a 100E in the late 60s. Fortunately Allards were fitting the 1500 Cortina engines into the new 105E Anglias, so new 1200cc OHV engines were available. We aquired the matching 4 speed gearboxes from breakers yards and shoe horned the 1200 OHV engine and gearbox into our 100Es. We progressed to fit the 1500 Cortina GT engines and changed the front suspension for sets off the Consul Classic which had 9 inch disc brakes.
They were quick little cars and actually quite reliable.
Yes the wipers were vacuum operated but ours were changed to electric very early on.
Looking back much of the mods were possible due to Ford's design principle of keeping things simple and not reinventing the wheel.
I don't know how many are aware that the rear screen on the 105E is the same as the front screen on the old E93A
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