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by BobtheTrain - 18/07/25 05:47 PM
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As the Octopus man fitted my home charger point today we were talking about the grid & about home usage. They do a load test where you switch on big draw items to see if your supply can cope. My DNO supplied fuse is 80 Amps so that is fine unless I add a heat pump.
But all the new charge points with low tarrifs by law have already a random delay to stop a surge in load.
It will be fun to see how that goes as more folk have heat pumps or EVs
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Oh great Alistair. Most of it will have inadequate noise suppression so use of the hf (and very likely vhf/uhf) radio bands will become impossible. 
Graham (G4FUJ)
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I'm still interested how people who live on housing estates in 22 story blocks of flats with 2 cars per household are going to charge their EV's ? Assume 4 flats per floor 88 flats = 176 cars X 6 blocks of flats = 1,056 cars.
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I'm still interested how people who live on housing estates in 22 story blocks of flats with 2 cars per household are going to charge their EV's ? Assume 4 flats per floor 88 flats = 176 cars X 6 blocks of flats = 1,056 cars. Except that this is a pretty fantastical possibility. Tower blocks are almost completely located in inner city areas, where car ownership is at much lower levels than this. In London for example, nearly half of all households don't have a car at al, another 40% only have one, and only 12% own two or more. So how many of this 12% do you honestly believe live in multi-storey tower blocks? In your scenario it's much more credible that there would be around 200 cars needing to be charged, and given that daily mileages are so low in cities they'd probably only need charging once a week at most, given average ranges around up around the 200 miles mark now and likely to increase much further in future. 40 cars a day needing a charge of around an hour on a DC charger in an estate of 6 tower blocks seems a much more manageable situation.
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Where we end up will be wonderful.
Houses with solar roof tiles integrated.
Heat pumps and ground thermal where practical.
Battery installations like the Tesla powerbank in each home which can be integrated into a local grid for surge support.
Cars with bi-directional battery which can be part of the store.
Locally integrated larger battery stacks for villages and remote regions
Solar and wind to provide the grids primary input with massive battery piles for peak.
In the meantime can they please fix my electricity meter so it does provide a blinkin remote reading, its not a lot to ask? Long way between these moments?
Seems like a step between today and the future and way too many people with their fingers in the pie to let it happen. Worryingly I have been on the side of commercialise-to-make-it-happen most of my life but I hear what I am saying and wonder. Now I watch Elon /Tramp on the edge of colossal abuse of this and begin to wonder if Singapore has it right. Odd world. Could the keystone Cops rid the US of waste and MAGA things up. If you give 100,000 fools a penknife and wood one of the them may start a bonfire? Thank you - pure magic  made my afternoon reading that  Really needs to be in the Just a smile..
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I don't know where you live Tim but perhaps you should visit Walthamstow, Chingford on the fringes of London not to mention huge conurbations like Thames View South London borders of Kent. All have many tower blocks and most of the residents have cars.
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We're talking to lots of 'experts' in relation our new house build and the raft of eco measures we HAVE to include as a condition of the planning consent.
Even though they're selling the technology not one of them is fully behind it.
We have to have an air source heat pump and an ev charger, it's logical to have PV panels and batteries.
Our neighbour's ashp routinely cuts out when the temperature drops to zero.
The PV panels are only fully efficient in the summer.
The battery seems like a good idea as long as you have a good off peak rate to charge it up when the panels aren't generating any electric.
With regard to EV crashes, it's the lithium that's the problem. It can be incredibly unstable, it seems to have a mind of its own...... it'll just decide it wants to burst into flames for no apparent reason.......🤷🏻♂️
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The media urban elite continue to push the EV agenda with no regard for affordability or access to home charging, let alone the ungreen lithium mining. It's all rather amusing, but I wonder when the reality will sink in? I get a daily dose of EV evangelism on my news feed. Maybe they are trying to piss me off. 
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A heat pump that cuts out a zero degrees is simply a faulty unit.
Over 60% of homes in Norway have them.
Here in Wales, our new heat pump has been working fine in low temperatures. It is very noisy when running at full blast though.
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Here in Wales, our new heat pump has been working fine in low temperatures. It is very noisy when running at full blast though. Last week, the engineer who serviced my boiler had just come from installing a new gas boiler to replace a heat pump. Environmental Health tested the heat pump with a decibel meter after complaints from the neighbours and found the levels illegally high. The owner had no choice but to have it removed.
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