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4/4 SPORT (2+2)-SEATER

Hi all,
Hi Moll66, hope you agree I’ve choosen your fantastic picture for sketching out my photoshopped Morgan 4/4 sport 2+2-saeater. It’s very similar to the old 4-seater shape and suits the “4/4 Sport philosophy”
(light, funny & economic), but offering more space & capacity.
Hope you like it.
BTW: really stunning that Red wine (Maroon) colour!

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Hmmmm, yes I like it. With the roof off it has a look of a vintage tourer (Bentley/Allard ish) and with roof up looks really close to the ground and similar to Lotus 7/Westfield.
It always amazes me what photoshop will do - the camera never lies no longer (I do not think that was good English)
cheersand thanks.

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Originally Posted By Gambalunga
Very nice. I think the 2+2 is a concept well worth exploring. This design exercise, with the hood up, has a much nicer appearance than the existing 4 seater. It is dificult to see how it would work with the side screens. How would you manage the space between the door mounted sidescreens and the side of the hood?


Hi Peter,
thanks for your kind words.
Hope you like the way I joined the space between the roof and the door sidescreen-frame; as you can see I’ve just used a piece of transparent plastic (edged/trimmed with hood fabric), fastened at the side of the hood , zipped on top to the roof and studded down to the body of the car. When you don’t want the stuff you can roll up it and tighten on the inside of the roof; so you can drive top up with or without door sidescreens.
(hope you have understood my explanation)

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Originally Posted By Gambalunga
I don't think there are many 2+2 sports cars that can really transport 4 adults. Some I have seen would even have trouble with 2 adults and 2 children. This would be fine for 2 adults and 2 children or perhaps small adults and would be great for touring with some custom luggage. Really that is what a 2+2 is all about.


That’s just my thought, I agree Peter
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Originally Posted By lord-richfield

MMC's 4 seater design does not appeal to all (I perhaps am in a minority who like it), but that aside I would say it does a remarkable job of being able to transport 4 adults hood up or down, plus picnic and chairs, something no other Morgan can do !

Richard

Hi all,
unfortunately the conflict between beauty (good looks) and usefulness (in a design project) is permanent.
Designers try to combine the two project targets, but the result is, in general, poor.
In the car design world I see some examples (and only for simplicity I would call the two versions of the same “famous” car “short” and “long” version) how long version is different (worse) than the short version:
e.g.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30268259@N03/9679296197/in/pool-1092905@N21
http://www.flickr.com/photos/59166814@N02/7358702730/in/pool-1092905@N21/
or
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dhmann/10409654256/in/pool-fiatcinquecento/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30797788@N03/4081448874/in/pool-2111212@N20
As you can see the “short” and “long” version of the same car has not the same appeal, and, obviously, the “long” version* had no sales success.
(*If memory help me rarely It is true the contrary:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/smiksmak/9050527393/in/pool-morris_minors/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28439790@N03/6671553133/in/pool-morris_minors/
and in the case the result is fine IMHO)
Hope you will share pictures of other cars in their “short” and “long” shape, and write your opinion.
Also Morgan Trad sports cars show the same result; the short shape is, in general, the only version people like. If memory helps me I remember that every ten Morgan Trads sold, only one is a 4-seater. People sacrifice usefulness to beauty.
The target of my design exercise (Morgan 2+2) is not to convince Morgan customers to choose it, but actually to convince Morgan enthusiasts (potentially me too), who don’t buy a Morgan Trad “short version” because of its little room, not satisfying their minimal person/luggage space request), and who don’t like the 4-seater shape, to have a new choice.
Hope I’ve made all this clear, and excuse me for , in some way, my logorrheic post..
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Hi all, something went wrong; I’ll try to newly paste the URL


http://www.flickr.com/photos/30268259@N03/9679296197/in/pool-1092905@N21

http://www.flickr.com/photos/59166814@N02/7358702730/in/pool-1092905@N21/
or


http://www.flickr.com/photos/dhmann/10409654256/in/pool-fiatcinquecento/


http://www.flickr.com/photos/30797788@N03/4081448874/in/pool-2111212@N20


http://www.flickr.com/photos/smiksmak/9050527393/in/pool-morris_minors/


http://www.flickr.com/photos/28439790@N03/6671553133/in/pool-morris_minors/

Hope it works now

Claudio

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Hi Claudio,

I like your work.
Nice done and thank you for choosing my 4/4 as donorcar.

Greetings

Michaël


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Great work as usual Bardi1949 - I love the classic Morgan design, but when I see variations - to my eye at least, there is a very fine line between a swan and an ugly duck.

It only seems to take very slight changes before it starts quacking.

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