Originally Posted By Heinz
Originally Posted By +8Rich
Originally Posted By Heinz
To be serious, I like the idea how the boys react and defend in wearing skirts. To me it has a deeper symbolic message. At least in Germany not only few boys cannot behave as they should and did in past decades. A lot lot them have to be "gender correct" they may not be loud or active. In the worst cases they get ritalin. Imagine Mozart today, he would be treated with ritalin and we had no Requiem and no Magic Flute because he would have been calmed down.


You have to let the free thinkers have some space otherwise all is lost. Our son went to a Grammar School and the dress code was smart and hair the same. He decided to go to the barbers one lunchtime and presented himself in class with a Mohican. He was instructed to change this style for something a little less startling so he got a Grade 2 allover and dyed it bright blue. There was nothing the school could do as the girls had dyed hair as well, so he changed colours weekly just to -iss them off. He kept it up for three years until he got bored with it.

He had a scooter which he worked and paid for in the school holidays and he would just vanish off the face of the planet for anything up to 3 days exploring the area with school friends. As you might imagine it caused us parents a lot of concern but we are both very positive people with a strong faith and hoped all would be well. This was time and space that he needed to develop in and we realised that at the time but it took a bit of living with.

He went on and got his 4 A levels at A and B grades without one nights homework, some people are wired differently. His two sisters worked incredibly hard for their 4 A levels and hated him at the time.

He has turned into a lovely caring human being that I am proud to call my friend and son.


That is a very impressive story, Richard, and I'm glad your son has parents who have so much understanding regarding the detours a son might need.

We have a 16 girl, a 25 girl and a 22 years old son. I love them all so much and all are really different. The girls have no issues to manage school, university etc. I'm happy even if I sometimes think the girls don't have this abilities got from me. Our son is like me a bit, needing detours and after some "exiting" time he now is on a very positive path. And you, Richard, could not describe it in a better way, nothing is nicer than having a son who is friend and son at the same time.


Thank you Heinz, like you I feel they have got their brains from their Mother but the constant need for adventure and excitement can be lain at my door quite happily. The girls are 39 and 36 and Joe is 33 and as you say you love them all dearly and it's fantastic when they develop into your friends as well as yours surely are/will.

I do envy you the age difference - I just loved the night out in the Students Union Bar and then onto a Club when I used to go and pick them up at the end of term, happy days and thoroughly enjoyed at the time.
One of the best parental realisation moments for me was when I twigged that they were beginning to teach me things, and continue to do so, they have to be very sharp just to survive these days. They make my childhood look amazingly straightforward and care free.


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