Like Dave I put together a list of preferences for a Plus 8 , kept an eye out on line then on a trip to visit my children in England visited as many dealers as I could , (with a very tolerant companion) I almost weakened and went for a brand new Plus 4 -but the dealer didnt take me seriously -in spite of having a heads up from someone over here that I was coming, and it wasnt my spec. In the end I asked myself what I had wanted for 40 years and it was still a Plus 8 , and luckily Berrybrook called back and said you better have a look at one they had just got -I was in Cornwall at the time so after a five minute test drive I did some serious thinking -continued my travels including a factory visit and on the day I flew out rang up and paid the deposit. Still very happy with my sister to +8 Rich's car.