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Roger, I think Gibraltar getting a special status is probably easy, because its land frontier is with the EU. In Gibraltar's case it would be the Spaniards that could make it hard to implemente an agreement on such an easy "special status".
However, in Scotland's case everything is much more complex, because in that case the land border is with the UK. Similar to the Northern Ireland problem, but with a greater frontier and direct land contact to England.
I noticed today that David Cameron, replying to the SNP leader in Parliament, said that the best option for Scotland was to remain both in the EU and the UK. This baffled me, coming from the PM, because I really don't understand how that can be achieved.
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Mario, I guess the Gibraltar situation is different but I can't get my head around how Scotland could be in both and potentially England & Wales out of the EU. It would be a conflict of mammoth proportions.
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I think that Cameron might have been alluding to the fact that before Brexit can be triggered, parliament must repeal the 1972 European Communities Act by which it voted to take us into the European Union – and MPs have every right, and indeed a duty if they think it best for Britain, to vote to stay.
Article 50 states that “Any member state may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements.” The UK’s most fundamental constitutional requirement is that there must first be the approval of its parliament.
So Scotland could remain in both the EU and the UK if the vote in parliament were to fail to repeal the 1972 act - which would almost certainly trigger a General Election, especially if one had not already been held as a result of Boris Johnson becoming leader of the Conservative party.
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I think that Cameron might have been alluding to the fact that before Brexit can be triggered, parliament must repeal the 1972 European Communities Act by which it voted to take us into the European Union – and MPs have every right, and indeed a duty if they think it best for Britain, to vote to stay.
Article 50 states that “Any member state may decide to withdraw from the Union in accordance with its own constitutional requirements.” The UK’s most fundamental constitutional requirement is that there must first be the approval of its parliament.
So Scotland could remain in both the EU and the UK if the vote in parliament were to fail to repeal the 1972 act - which would almost certainly trigger a General Election, especially if one had not already been held as a result of Boris Johnson becoming leader of the Conservative party. All rather curious. Like brides left at the altar, after sacrificing their virginity on the promise of marriage, most of the EU governments now want the UK to exit as soon as possible. Cameron has ruled out the possibility of a second referendum (despite nearly 4 million signatures at this moment) so they can't see any reason for delay.
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Mario, I guess the Gibraltar situation is different but I can't get my head around how Scotland could be in both and potentially England & Wales out of the EU. It would be a conflict of mammoth proportions. Not when you are as deliberately stupid as their glorious leader. Why let facts get in the way of a good folly and personal gain. As a proud Scotsman living in England I totally fail to understand why they think the money train from the EU will exceed what they get from the UK pockets without a LOT more work. Daft. Unless there is some other reason ? Cannot see a lot of manufacturing or service industry outside of whiskey and tourism in truth ? To many people are worried about the trough being pulled from their mouths.
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Of the four million signatures on the petition it is said that only a minority have the right to vote in the UK.
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Presumably the 40000 from Vatican City and 23000 from North Korea were disenfranchised British citizens!
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So how many more will exit the EU in the coming year ?
I'm guessing at a couple of certainties at least.
My vote was to stay.
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They dont like it up em! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/36650014Farage being typically conciliatory - not.
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