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Fit male waterproof connector

I am in the process of fitting a temporary high level brake light. I am nearly there and just have to fit a male waterproof connector to the cable. This is in another thread which I will update once I have finished!

I am a complete novice at this sort of thing but I am willing to have a go. I should just about manage to solder the wire to the two prongs of the male terminal after crimping.

It is making up the connector that troubles me. I have to say it is one F.F. That of course would be a “fiddly fellow”

I have a photo that I found of the female & male waterproof connectors, link below. (I just need to make up the male one).

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/laurence.rudolf/Connector%20M&F.jpg

I have stripped back the new cable to go into the male connector. On to the cable I slip the small green wire seal. The photo appears to show that the last two ends of male terminal are crimped to the green wire seal. Is this correct? Or is nothing crimped to the green wire seal?

Then am I correct in thinking the yellow cover is clicked into place inside the black male connector before any wire is fed into the connector. Once the yellow cover is in place the wire is fed in through the rear of the connector. The male terminal is then pulled through the slots in the yellow cover using needle nose pliers and that completes the connector.

This all may seem very obvious to somebody who has done this before but for a novice like me I have to admit it is a bit fiddly. Any help greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Lol

That is a great Pic . They obviously sent you both parts.

When I did mine, I slid the green pieces up each cable first, to keep them well clear of the metal prong.

Next, I Crimped and Soldered each prong onto each cable.

I also Fitted the yellow piece in place in the Socket next.

Then I fed each leg through its correct hole making sure 'live to live' when connected to the female socket.

Then I pulled each leg into place with the pliers until they clicked home.

Lastly I push fitted the green pieces into their tubes in the body of the socket.

I also would be interested to know if that is actually the correct process to use.

Hello Frank
I contacted Paul & MES Ltd & this is how he told me to do it.

Slide on the green seals first. Bare 5mm of the cable.

Crimp the end of the terminal to the end of the green seal.

Using just a dab of solder, solder the wire to the terminal & then crimp over it.

Feed the terminal legs into the connector from the rear. The crimped side should be opposite the clip. Live to live. You then have to push the green seals into place. Then loosely put the yellow cover on & pull the terminals from the front until they click home.

Lastly push the yellow cover backwards until it locks into place.

This is in a slightly different order to your method. Mainly because the terminal is crimped to the seal the green seal then has to be pushed into place first.

It all worked perfectly & I had a solid male terminal on the end of my new temporary high leval brake lightcable.

Now for the really bad news. Being the first dry day today for a long time I went to get my car to bring it home. I was already to fit the Y Splitter only to find that my 1998 car has different connectors. I am sick as the proverbial parrot!

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/laurence.rudolf/LR%201.jpg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/laurence.rudolf/LR%203.jpg

Back to the drawing board.

The yang is male, dry.
The yin is female, wet.

So, the male connector has to be waterproof.
But what about the female connector?

Hi Laurence
I have just looked at your pictures here on Talk Morgan and that High Level Brake light connector looks a bit like the ones Simmonds Supplied with your new lamp?

You could make yourself a 'Y' Splitter with those on the ends if they are the same. Perhaps Steve Simmonds would send you some more connectors with which to make it if they are the same?

The Socket assembly description above from Paul at MES is obviously more logical than my ' Trial and Error' method which I did only use once.

Crimping in the Rubbers saves all of the pushing a shoving I had to do trying to get the end over the crimped leg.

Clicking home the Yellow End Piece last sounds so logical now as well.

I may well buy some more plugs and sockets myself and make a New Staggered Leg 'Y' Splitter myself using this method.

I made the Yang & it was ready for the Yin. Then when the big day arrived I find out that there was no Yin.

So now I need to puchase two more Yin's & one Yan & hope that I end up in waterproof heaven.

Excellent.

Hi Frank
I could use bullet connectors and & a plug & socket did come with the kit from Simmonds. The problem was that the socket would have to be screwed to the wood & you could only make the connection by flipping the luggage rack out & then removing the spare wheel.

I really wanted to utilize the excellent Y splitter that MES supplied so that I would not have to remove the spare wheel everytime I wanted to remove the temporary brake light.

I think that the only way that I can progress is if I order a few more connectors & change them for the bullet connectors that are currently used in the wiring. I have ordered them from PoleVolt Ltd. I have listed the link below. The prices are very reasonable. I am however a little concerned about cutting into the existing high level brake light cable & also I will have to try to solder the connectors on inside the rear wheel space.

http://www.polevolt.co.uk/acatalog/Econoseal_Connectors.html

I can't think of any other way to do it.

I would go for it then Laurence and change the sockets. You should be able to unplug the Existing High Level Brake Lamp and change that end on the bench.

That just leaves the car end. The 'Y' Splitter length will more than make up for the shortend cables and will never need to be removed once fitted.

To make fitting the new 'Car End' connector, you may be able to gain some length in that cable to temporarily pull forward from further under the spare wheel well??
It is worth having a look / feel past the cables next point where it is fixed to the body frame. There is usually some slack there to borrow .

Happy hunting

I read the title and thought a a good looking guy in a mac factory!

On a (slightly) more serious point I had the 'alien' removed at birth by my dealer and think the looks better for it. I'm puzzled as to why you'd need to refit it! (I actually couldn't as the dealer never gave it to me after taking it off) Is it just me?