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Originally Posted by DaveW
A volunteer friend tells us that with the Pfizer roll out, at the end of day they are scratching around for patients when some don't turn up, otherwise the vaccine gets wasted, so as I said earlier, it might be worth offering yourself as an end of day vaccinee, so the jabs are not wasted.


Round here they have been vaccinating the Police etc with the end of day leftovers.

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Yet again the NHS and the many volunteers are doing a fantastic job rolling out the vaccination, but please dont start congratulating Boris Johnson after a year of misinformation , u turns , broken promises and incompetance which has resulted in this island country having the highest death rate per population in the world.


Absolutely! Unfortunately many will!!


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Last night out of the blue, MrsW got a text from the Surgery offering her the Covid vaccination. She is 69 in March and suffers with Asthma.

The App offered a choice of venue and a choice of dates and times. So she booked the nearest venue, which is a couple of miles away, for 11.50am today.

MrsW's surgery is super efficient anyway, not like mine which is more of a dark ages operation. Anyway, I took her down this morning, and she asked if they could do me, since I was waiting in the car park.

No problem, after establishing my D.O.B and Surgery practice. It was very slick. Hand sanitiser compulsory on the way in. Straight to a nurse, with five stations operating. 30 seconds later, I'm waiting for the mandatory 15 minutes, reading the leaflet. Enclosed is a card which gives the date, batch number and brand. We had the Pfizer vaccine.

After 15 minutes we left with another mandatory hand sanitiser on the way out. Hugely impressive operation.


Dave, out of curiosity, did you both have the jab at the same visit? I had mine on Saturday and Mrs A drove but was too young (69) to have one offered.


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I think death rates will be more accurately judged when things settle. I do believe that other countries have different and highly misleading methods of reporting Covid data. We may find things are actually worse in many other countries, but our data reporting is more accurate than most.
If you didn't like BJ before Covid, then you probably think he is incompetent anyway. Personally, I think he will be judged in a kinder light by the majority of people when this is all over.
He has certainly done his ratings no harm with the speed of the vaccine roll. out, that is for sure.

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Last night out of the blue, MrsW got a text from the Surgery offering her the Covid vaccination. She is 69 in March and suffers with Asthma.

The App offered a choice of venue and a choice of dates and times. So she booked the nearest venue, which is a couple of miles away, for 11.50am today.

MrsW's surgery is super efficient anyway, not like mine which is more of a dark ages operation. Anyway, I took her down this morning, and she asked if they could do me, since I was waiting in the car park.

No problem, after establishing my D.O.B and Surgery practice. It was very slick. Hand sanitiser compulsory on the way in. Straight to a nurse, with five stations operating. 30 seconds later, I'm waiting for the mandatory 15 minutes, reading the leaflet. Enclosed is a card which gives the date, batch number and brand. We had the Pfizer vaccine.

After 15 minutes we left with another mandatory hand sanitiser on the way out. Hugely impressive operation.


Dave, out of curiosity, did you both have the jab at the same visit? I had mine on Saturday and Mrs A drove but was too young (69) to have one offered.


Both together Ken........side by side........I'm a year younger at 67, 68 in April.


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Originally Posted by hugo
Yet again the NHS and the many volunteers are doing a fantastic job rolling out the vaccination, but please dont start congratulating Boris Johnson after a year of misinformation , u turns , broken promises and incompetance which has resulted in this island country having the highest death rate per population in the world.


Agreed.


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Great news Dave. Suffolk is way behind the rest of England alas

In Norfolk things seem to be progressing well, I've had a letter to tell me that I will be getting a letter to tell me when I should be getting my jab!!!!

We had similar Reg. An email each asking for basic personal details as a pre-empt to vaccination appointment. Then within seven days a phone call suggesting they had spare slots and would we like to be vaccinated later that day, an offer we couldn't refuse. We were surprised given we were both in our 70's and thought they hadn't completed the 80's category yet, but the short notice and late appointment does suggest we were randomly picked to use up the days vaccine leftovers.


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Said it at the begining and happy to say it again (and happy to eat humble-pie if proved wrong🙂) .... but, when the political shouty stuff is over and the real experts have analysed the pandemic ... I would bet that demographics and personal health profiles (with some social/cultural input and some geographical good luck round the edges) will prove to have had a far greater influence on a given nation's pandemic impact than any actions taken by governments. (vaccines excepted as they are what will ultimately bring this under some sort of control )

The fact that numerous developed countries, highly organised and with world leading universal healthcare have suffered so badly .... while many developing countries with none of the above have had tiny death rates with no governmental intervention to speak of seems counter-intuitive

Play politics all you want, but I for one am expecting the real scientific analysis to be fascinating ... and maybe disquieting for western lifestyles.

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It will be interesting to see what factors influence the ability of a given society to respond better than another to the pandemic. Early research seems to indicate obesity and diabetes increasing incidence of contracting Covid, and the UK has a massive obesity and diabetes affected population. A research article from the USA over the summer seemed to suggest that blood type whether positive or negative influenced your likelihood of greater or lesser potential for exposure to Covid.

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Originally Posted by Image
Said it at the begining and happy to say it again (and happy to eat humble-pie if proved wrong🙂) .... but, when the political shouty stuff is over and the real experts have analysed the pandemic ... I would bet that demographics and personal health profiles (with some social/cultural input and some geographical good luck round the edges) will prove to have had a far greater influence on a given nation's pandemic impact than any actions taken by governments. (vaccines excepted as they are what will ultimately bring this under some sort of control )

The fact that numerous developed countries, highly organised and with world leading universal healthcare have suffered so badly .... while many developing countries with none of the above have had tiny death rates with no governmental intervention to speak of seems counter-intuitive

Play politics all you want, but I for one am expecting the real scientific analysis to be fascinating ... and maybe disquieting for western lifestyles.

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I am inclined to agree with you but add one important issue and that is of a compliant and obedient culture. In the far east where kids are brought up to have responsibility towards their group, their society and to obey instructions its much easier the shepherd people into following a course of action. Here in the west where importance is attached to individualism and personal freedom, its much more difficult. But even here, you can see the difference between the much more ordered society of Germany and the disorganised one of the UK. The issue then is not the actions taken by governments but the observance of the actions taken by governments.

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