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Peter J #793847 14/01/24 09:09 PM
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On our one they said "it's out of control as we don't have charging capability, just try and return it with something in it, we won't charge you."


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So if I have a BEV I should add €25 to the running cost of the vehicle for every time I recharge it. Perhaps, as a pensioner, my time is less valuable but if I was running a business this is certainly a consideration. Certainly travelling for business you also have the problem of finding a charging point that is both unoccupied and functioning.
Looked at in that light it makes BEV cars less economic than they would have us believe.
For personal use I can only perceive a BEV that can sit on a home charger as a viable shopping trolly, or short distance commuter, where the daily range is less than can be recharged overnight. Going on holidays with one is for me unthinkable.


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Peter that is my view . I think waiting a while is the best approach.


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Originally Posted by Gambalunga
For personal use I can only perceive a BEV that can sit on a home charger as a viable shopping trolly, or short distance commuter, where the daily range is less than can be recharged overnight. Going on holidays with one is for me unthinkable.

That has been our experience. Unless you have a Musk Float, our experience of the UK charging network is:

1. Sparse
2. Unreliable
3. More expensive than petrol


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EVs are brilliant second cars (Especially the Mini EV) for trips within 30 miles from home. The EV protagonists trumpet the fact that most car journeys are less than 50km. That may be so, but the absence of a robust, afffordable charging network is the real problem.


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It will be interesting to see how home charging is taxed once we become a nation of EV owners.

Is the governments enthusiasm in promoting Smart meters really motivated by educating us on how wasteful it is to boil a full kettle ?

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Originally Posted by mph
It will be interesting to see how home charging is taxed once we become a nation of EV owners.

Is the governments enthusiasm in promoting Smart meters really motivated by educating us on how wasteful it is to boil a full kettle ?

By then it will be pay per mile for all of us no doubt.


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I really don't see us ever becoming a nation of EV owners. Even with current (Ha!) levels of adoption there are issues. I'm very happy to let the pioneers push the product, as they did with Betamax, as I did with 8 Tracks, as my "must have" mate did with plasma TV.
It's all good, but the future is always unpredictable.


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Originally Posted by DaveW
I really don't see us ever becoming a nation of EV owners. Even with current (Ha!) levels of adoption there are issues. I'm very happy to let the pioneers push the product, as they did with Betamax, as I did with 8 Tracks, as my "must have" mate did with plasma TV.
It's all good, but the future is always unpredictable.

The mandatory sales of EV's is still in place and due to increase year on year.

Manufacturers face huge penalties if they don't meet the government targets.

Unless this changes we will have no choice but to become a nation of EV owners.

https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/ma...-vehicle-targets-to-remain-for-carmakers

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Originally Posted by mph
Manufacturers face huge penalties if they don't meet the government targets.

Unless this changes we will have no choice but to become a nation of EV owners.

I have such a conflicted view of this. Part of me says that unless goals are set to improve things inertia means progress will be slow and we need to reduce our impact on the toxicity of the planet (said Mr V8, oops)
Yet the manner in which things are being done (chicken before the egg etc for charging and resolution of BEV) whilst it drives us into the arms of China removing even more jobs from Europe, what to do?


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