What watch should you wear when driving a Morgan? That is the question ! If, like me, you love watches as much as cars, choosing the right watch when driving a Morgan is important. Here's an example of a vintage watch I enjoy wearing on my drives: A 1950s rose gold Jaeger-LeCoultre Powermatic :
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I have a Huawei Band 10. Tells the time, and monitors my heart rate, sleep patterns, daily steps, weather forecast and numerous other things that I like to check up on, but not sure why. Also lets me know when I have a text or phone call, so can keep my phone on silent all day. AND helps me find my phone when I've left it somewhere unusual (like this morning, when I'd left it in the dining room).
I have also colour co-ordinated it with my Morgan and my tattoo collection. All for the grand sum of £49.99
"Y mae dafad ddu ym mhob praidd" 1972 4/4, 1981 MGBGT, 1984 FLHT1340, 1980 XLH1000, 1990 ZX10
If you use a Mobile phone, it's probably connected to the network via some form of Huawei kit (although it should have been removed by 2027, but who knows if that will actually happen).
But more importantly - what's your watch?
"Y mae dafad ddu ym mhob praidd" 1972 4/4, 1981 MGBGT, 1984 FLHT1340, 1980 XLH1000, 1990 ZX10
I don't tend to wear a watch as much these days, so whatever is close to hand and wound up, either Tudor BB or Rolex. I'm more focused on enjoying the drive and the Morgan has a clock anyway, should you need to be cognisant of the time at any point.
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The most appropriate watch to wear in my 4/4 Sport, from my modest but rare watch collection would be my 1969 Heuer Autavia Panda. Of course I could go for my 5513 Submariner from 1966, but I generally wear my 1972 Datejust, which has been my daily for the last 30 years or so. Whatever your choice it should be a vintage watch for a Morgan jaunt.
Some show off watches in this thread…….. Got a gold Accurist watch for my 18th, now a bit damaged like the owner. Bought a Tag in 1983 and worn everyday. Funnily enough in Madrid this weekend food tasting for our sons wedding someone said what a nice old watch? A battery change and vacuum seal costs 5 to 10 euros in Slovenia and had it serviced at 25 one year.. Compare that to the UK My fav but could not be worn in the Morgan as rain, moisture etc would bug**r it , a gold Bueche Girod Roy King from 1987.
Why I like this thread is I am keen to buy another watch. Cheap Breitling or Tag as watch wearing in London is a risk. Two neighbours attacked for their Rolexes, one with a machete! So alternative is TBMs that does so much more than tell the time….Nice feature if it also stops at the exact time you croak !?
My wife has had a Jaeger LeCoultre I got cheaply in an auction and the odd other watch over our many years and they all stop working on her. It’s a real plus bonus . She never wanted an engagement ring, doesn’t like jewellery much and doesn’t like shopping !! How lucky am I. But she is 70 in a few weeks and I have no idea what to buy her. Ideas most welcome but I promised her a potters wheel and Kiln for her 60th and we have nowhere to put them, so it’s still an IOU until we move ! Best to all, MM
Never worn wristwatches, can't get on with them (though I do have a military pilot's watch that now lives in my bedside drawer as I no longer fly ... but which Bonesie of this parish alerted me was worth a silly amount of money) ... for the Morgan I have a GSPT pocket watch ... standard Army issue for WW2 ... carried by Mrs Image's Dad and purchased by him when he was de-mobbed (or possibly just 'forgot' to hand it back! 🙂)
K
Ps ... sorry, only pic of it I have was just after the dash went back in during the resto ... hence the half-completed loom
Why I like this thread is I am keen to buy another watch.
Mike, if you'd like something interesting but not obvious, in terms of possible theft target, here are a few companies worth looking at:
Bradley (of Autodromo) makes some interesting, classic car inspired, watches: https://autodromo.com - I own a 'Group-B series 1' - the downside is they are small volume runs and they tend to sell out quite quickly. You can see his previous watches here: https://autodromo.com/pages/watch-archive
Sinn have an interesting history and make some attractive, well built, quality watches at a reasonable price point: https://www.sinn.de/en/
And, our very own Bonesie makes some small batch interesting time pieces, usually with military inspiration. His watch brand is called 6B Watches and he is also known, in the watch world, for making some brilliant quality straps.
All the brands you mention are good also consider Longine or Cartier, both do non mechanical movements ( and therefore not so expensive to service) with some really nice Ladies pieces.
Yes, living in London does mean it's better to remain under the radar, I never wear a watch when in London.
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The mention of Bonesie reminded me he's not posted for a long time & I think was considering selling the Mog...wonder how he's doing as he used to post some photos and descriptions of interesting projects
I ruined my gear knob through wearing a watch with a metal strap. Unbeknown to me, each time I reached across to the hand brake, it was putting scratches on the knob. By the time I realised, it was too late and I had to replace the knob.
The mention of Bonesie reminded me he's not posted for a long time & I think was considering selling the Mog...wonder how he's doing as he used to post some photos and descriptions of interesting projects
He doesn't have any watches for sale, hope he is ok.
I am amazed to see a mention of Beuche Girod (pronounced Boogeroh) from MorganMike earlier in the thread. A luxury watch brand from that well known watch making town of Watford Fantastic quality watches, using Piguet movements customised in house. Roy King owned the company and "The Roy King" was their top of the range watch and not cheap. I seriously doubt many watch enthusiasts are even aware of their existence, but they are rare and collectable, especially with gold prices at an all time high. I have a couple of beautiful 9ct ladies watches that my wife never wears, but sadly I don't have a men's example in my collection. Well done to MorganMike.
I love watches.......🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ I've always had a 'nice' watch..... well, as soon as could afford one...... I've always had a thing for Omega...... probably because my Dad had one.... it was the only 'thing' I ever wanted. He gave it to me before he died. I'll keep it forever. I've had loads of Omegas.....seamasters, planet oceans, moonwatches, aqua terra's....🤦🏻♂️
Rolex.............🤷🏻♂️ I've had loads of them......Subs, Gmt's, Daytonas, datejust, explorer, explorer 2's......
but..................
I've just sold my sub................... every hoodie wearing, scumbag, wanna-be gangster with his mum's carving knife up his sleeve recognises it from 20 feet away..... It had become a liability...... I didn't feel safe wearing it.🤷🏻♂️
Happy now to wear an under the radar seamaster 300 professional on a rubber strap....... nice watch, dressy enough, robust enough..... not a target for scumbags.....!!!!
I've just sold my sub................... every hoodie wearing, scumbag, wanna-be gangster with his mum's carving knife up his sleeve recognises from 20 feet away..... It had become a liability...... I didn't feel safe wearing it.🤷🏻♂️
Happy now to wear an under the radar seamaster 300 professional on a rubber strap....... nice watch, dressy enough, robust enough..... not a target for scumbags.....!!!!
I agree, Subs, GMTs and Daytonas are instantly recognisable. However, I'm not sure I agree that Omegas are under the radar; unfortunately, with new Seamaster 300s costing £5k+, the undesirables know exactly what they are and the value. I know at least two people who have lost them to theft in London. I guess it boils down to degrees but I'd suggest that whilst it is behind Rolex in terms of 'desirability to thieves', Omega is still on their shopping list.
In later years, I tend to enjoy vintage watches far more than their modern counterparts. To most, it is just an old watch and goes unnoticed and, in my humble opinion, you can wear vintage Omega, Heuer and many of the niche brands far more comfortably than a modern counterpart. Possibly similar to the feeling that a Morgan is less of an obvious statement of wealth than a modern Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc? Whilst some new Morgans are not far off the price of a nearly new 'prestige sports car', I can't help but feel that the majority of the public have no idea of what they are worth and don't necessarily automatically equate them with an exorbitant financial value. Again, a vintage Rolex Sub is still a Rolex sub but a most people have no idea of the value of a Heuer Autavia or Omega Seamaster 'Jedi' , etc.
Luckily we dont have those issues -yet. Whilst on a Morgan run I like to wear my CW Morgan C3 -which being quartz is deadly accurate, I have a Seamaster professional which people do notice, this summer I am wearing a CW trident in the bright reef colours and I really like it . Quite attracted to a bronze watch being a nautical type -it seems the CW ones are a bit big for my wrist .
I unfortunately agree with you, Julian. It's risky to wear certain watch models in several capital cities, especially Paris and the French Riviera in the south of France...
However, there are some very exclusive and discreet brands :
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Watches are fascinating objects, I like them, I wear them but rarely look at the time on them, I often don’t bother setting them so I’ve no idea why I bother with one. They can look good though.
I agree - I often watch the Repair Shop and am in awe of that bloke that can take them to pieces and restore them. I'd love to have those kind of skills and patience.
However, when I look at the vastly inflated sums that some of them change hands for, I can't help but think of 'a fool and his money'......
"Y mae dafad ddu ym mhob praidd" 1972 4/4, 1981 MGBGT, 1984 FLHT1340, 1980 XLH1000, 1990 ZX10
I agree - I often watch the Repair Shop and am in awe of that bloke that can take them to pieces and restore them. I'd love to have those kind of skills and patience.
However, when I look at the vastly inflated sums that some of them change hands for, I can't help but think of 'a fool and his money'......
They are fascinating and the skill, and craftsmanship, behind a mechanical watch is nothing short of impressive.
As for price, that was my point in a post a few back, they don't have to be inflated. There are plenty of people making interesting, mechanical watches, at reasonable sums; yes, they may use mass produced movements but often these are excellent ones and nothing to be scoffed at.
A few people have mentioned Smiths. This UK company owns the license and now makes some quality time pieces at a reasonable price point for a low volume mechanical watch: https://www.timefactors.com/collections/smiths
I wear my Seiko self winding watch that has been with me since I joined the military, it has been through thick and thin including numerous combat zones never let me down when keeping time was critical.
Bruce 1964 4/4 Series V Comp (Megan) 1994 +8 (Maurice) tis no more 2013 M3W (Olga)
However, when I look at the vastly inflated sums that some of them change hands for, I can't help but think of 'a fool and his money'......
Not always, I know lot's of people who have made very, very serious money out of watches and watch collecting brands such as Rolex and Patek Philippe. it maybe for some a high entry cost, but buy the right watches and you can make very serious money out of a hobby, all of which is CGT free.
Of course like classic cars, the point at which you first enter the market and then leave it can be critical to the size of the return on investment.It can take years of understanding the brands and which to collect and those that always bomb in value as soon as you take them out of the shop.
So what some may consider to be fools, are often actually quite switched on to the opportunities out there. It can also be a very rewarding and involving hobby and require detailed research eg I researched the ( completely unknown outside of the industry) adoption of Tritium and it's sources, in replacing Radium in the 60's to paint dials and hands and how that change manifested itself on Rolex dial markings. A real case of knowledge is power. (scientia potentia est) .............
Some may find that a little obscure but can influence relative values especially at cutover periods and short term dial markings especially relative rarity. and often the prices commanded..
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I unfortunately agree with you, Julian. It's risky to wear certain watch models in several capital cities, especially Paris and the French Riviera in the south of France...
However, there are some very exclusive and discreet brands :
I have three watches and chose which one to wear when out and about based on a couple of seconds risk assessment
Expendable Medium Safe environment
2021 Lapis Blue Plus 6 You know it makes sense! 2016 Carmine Red 991.2 C4S
I wear my Seiko self winding watch that has been with me since I joined the military, it has been through thick and thin including numerous combat zones never let me down when keeping time was critical.
Snap ! As advertised in Classic Cars in January 2009 when my Roadster was first registered.
Peter 2009 3-litre Roadster "Ivor", royal ivory / green
My 30 year old present from the long haired Brigadier is all I need if I am away from home and need to wear one, suits me perfectly she knows her man well.
Anyone ever made it to 200Mtrs in a Morgan then ?
2009 4/4 Sport Henrietta 1999 Indigo Blue +8 2009 4/4 Sport Green prev 1993 Con Green +8 prev
They were discussing watches on QI XL last night. Sandi talked about her Dad saying something along the lines of 'always wear a watch that is valuable enough to get you home in an emergency' and said about how he'd once returned from some warzone 'sans watch'.
Thankfully, I don't think I'll get myself is a position where I'll need to do the same. Joanne McNally made some comments on the show which are more aligned to my sentiments
"Y mae dafad ddu ym mhob praidd" 1972 4/4, 1981 MGBGT, 1984 FLHT1340, 1980 XLH1000, 1990 ZX10
I have a small inadvertent collection which I’m trying to reduce.
I have my childhood sieko, my late father’s ingersol, and late uncles rotary - non of which are valuable to anyone other than me.
I have a battered Casio that I wear when working on the cars or DIY. I have a black Seiko night sky than my mum bought me shortly before her major surgery.
I also have a Crristopher Ward C3 Morgan watch and a Tag F1 that I no longer wear (and are for sale) now I have my Omega Seamaster. I bought the Omega with some of the money from my late mums estate as she always liked James Bond’s watches!
I’m not a Watch nerd I just like the look of them and (with the exception of the Omega) have accumulated the above more by default than design.
2012 Plus 4 in Sport Green. Much comfier than the Plus 8!
I think you recognize the one on the right. The one on the left I found years ago at a classic car fair. The color has faded over the years but for that cheap price I didn't expect anything else. People often ask where they can buy one but there are no details on it, so probably Chinese.
Another problem arises every morning; what to wear?
Paul
1990 4/4 1.6 Ford CVH Sold 2014 +4 2.0 Ford 2005 BMW Z4 2.2 6Cyl Sold
I thought that my 2004 Breitling Chromatic would go well with the Morgan, as it has to do with flying and driving in the old-fashioned way and it is mechanical with a brown leather strap in a similar way. While I acquired a few nice (to me) watches 25 to 15 years ago, including a Moonwatch, Explorer 1 in 39 mm, an Ulysse Nardin Blue Wave, and other such items, I have now come to realize that less expensive watches can be very enjoyable, not least because they can be worn more casually and carefree in a city. Two years ago, my children gave me a beautiful Smart Moonwatch “The Earth” for my birthday. I wear it the most of my watches now, and it's a wonderful gift that always reminds me of our children. A few years ago, I saw the movie “All is Lost” with Robert Redford alone on his sailboat in dire straits. I immediately fell in love with his Seiko, and now it is forever linked to the story of the film. The watch is no longer available new, but it has a beautiful successor that I intend to buy, also with driving in the Morgan in mind. I am already as excited about this inexpensive watch as a little boy. And it is a completely mechanical piece. It also like to have a dark blue NATO strap.
And in my eyes, it is a fully-fledged Seiko with its own identity and not a Rolex imitation, which it certainly does not want to be. At least, that's how I see it. We were last in Japan in November for the third time in 12 years, and wearing this watch reminds me of that beautiful country.
I also have a lovely Laco. This reasonably modestly priced watch has a beautiful self winding mechanism and glass back. It has taken a serious hammering as I use it when doing manual work etc.
The Laco is a very attractive watch, also in terms of price. However, it is perhaps worth to mention the watch's origins... without wanting to spoil the enjoyment. It is by no means a copy of the IWC Pilot's Watch. The design was created in the 1940s according to strict specifications from the German Reich Aviation Ministry. From this perspective, the Laco is still a very original watch from the manufacturer that still exists and that built it back then, alongside four other manufacturers:
IWC (International Watch Co., Schaffhausen) A. Lange & Söhne (Glashütte) Laco (Lacher & Co., Pforzheim) Stowa (Walter Storz, Pforzheim) Wempe (Gerhard D. Wempe, Hamburg
On its website, IWC is always a little bashful about the origins of the watch, which it also built for the Nazis at the time, making it just as original as the Laco. Well, the poor watch can't help its origins and the intentions that German pilots in WW2 should be able to read the time well. But it doesn't hurt to know the historical context.
What's missing from this thread is a watch with 12 o'clock oriented correctly for driving, a proper driver's watch like the Omega Chronostop Driver. Designed to be worn on the inside of the wrist so that when driving your classic car you can glance down and read the time without taking your left hand off the wheel. If anyone wants one I could be tempted to sell it and for a suitable offer I would even throw in the custom watch cushion it's mounted on.
Let me suggest as a Swiss guy: Of course a watch from good old England. Here my wifes Beaucroft in "British Sky" limited edition. Automatic movement. Made in Cambridge.
They seek him here, they seek him there His clothes are loud, but never square It will make or break him, so he's got to buy the best 'Cause he's a dedicated follower of fashion
My Ferrari had a clock in it! It didnt work But the speedo did and thats what matters.
I suspect a mechanical watch for those who have interest in such craftsmanship and design, may be similar to that of car enthusiasts in terms of the design variation appearance and sound of different internal combustion engines.. and likewise enthusiasts in both areas might somewhat less appreciative of the modern electrically driven alternatives...? As ever each to their own... (-:
Calum, it’s absolutely no surprise you’d wear a watch with no numbers and all off at a jaunty angle, at least the aviator one gives you a clue. Howard, Morgans and their owners haven’t been in fashion since 1930, we don’t follow anyone, we’re in front going slow!😁
But without it you wouldn't know if your train/bus/plane was late..............or early come to that, or on time...................it's' all a construct I blame monks attending prayers and seafarers for state of time governance we now all find ourselves in.
Think of all the timetable schedulers that would be out of a job without it.
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And who brought you standard time throughout Britain? The railways, of course!
Hence my first reference to trains.
Before the introduction of railways and standardized time in the 1840s, Bristol (for example) time was approximately 10 to 11 minutes behind London (Greenwich) time. Because local time was based on the sun's position, Bristol, located further west, experienced solar noon about 10 minutes later than London.
Key details regarding this time difference:
The "Two Minute" Clock: The historic Corn Exchange clock in Bristol still features two minute hands: one for local time and a red one for London time, reflecting this former discrepancy.
Railway Time: The arrival of the Great Western Railway required a uniform schedule, forcing Bristol to adopt London time (GMT) by 1852.
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Nestor ... at the risk of being personal, you have outstandingly neat fingernails! ... are you a surgeon? ... contrast to mine that always have oil under them and raggedy bits where I've used them as screwdrivers!
Lovely watch by the way ... beautifully balanced and understated face design and with all the wonderful whirry bits hidden behind ... watch for a gent of taste!
And who brought you standard time throughout Britain? The railways, of course!
That is ironic
As in "horse".
Indeed the iron horse + they are seldom to time these days,,,
Perhaps I'm in the minority, but when I drive the Morgan I'm rarely in a hurry -- I no longer have planes to catch or meetings to attend, and the pub will still be there whatever time I arrive. I don't need a timepiece that's so accurate I could schedule the launch of a space rocket. I had one of these www.hodinkee.com/articles/chromachron-a-radically-new-approach-to-time which fulfilled my compulsion to have a watch on my wrist... only sold it when I became interested in larger dials.
Peter 2009 3-litre Roadster "Ivor", royal ivory / green
Perhaps I'm in the minority, but when I drive the Morgan I'm rarely in a hurry -- I no longer have planes to catch or meetings to attend
Same here. I switched to Apple Watch a few years ago for its health-monitoring capabilities, which I have to say are pretty impressive.
Trouble with the fantastic facilities on such watches, is that you are instantly aware of anything unusual which can create an observation paranoia, eg how many standard deviations from your normal reading is still acceptable?
Always very reassuring to have a watch that tells you, you are still alive.
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Nestor ... at the risk of being personal, you have outstandingly neat fingernails! ... are you a surgeon? ... contrast to mine that always have oil under them and raggedy bits where I've used them as screwdrivers!
Lovely watch by the way ... beautifully balanced and understated face design and with all the wonderful whirry bits hidden behind ... watch for a gent of taste!
K
K, Don't worry I am also a member of the blak fingernails club
Paul
1990 4/4 1.6 Ford CVH Sold 2014 +4 2.0 Ford 2005 BMW Z4 2.2 6Cyl Sold
I love watches.......🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ I've always had a 'nice' watch..... well, as soon as could afford one...... I've always had a thing for Omega...... probably because my Dad had one.... it was the only 'thing' I ever wanted. He gave it to me before he died. I'll keep it forever. I've had loads of Omegas.....seamasters, planet oceans, moonwatches, aqua terra's....🤦🏻♂️
Rolex.............🤷🏻♂️ I've had loads of them......Subs, Gmt's, Daytonas, datejust, explorer, explorer 2's......
but..................
I've just sold my sub................... every hoodie wearing, scumbag, wanna-be gangster with his mum's carving knife up his sleeve recognises it from 20 feet away..... It had become a liability...... I didn't feel safe wearing it.🤷🏻♂️
Happy now to wear an under the radar seamaster 300 professional on a rubber strap....... nice watch, dressy enough, robust enough..... not a target for scumbags.....!!!!
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Wow—I didn’t realize you sold your Rolex Submariner, Julian. After being on the waiting list for so long, that surprised me… though I guess I should’ve seen it coming. You don’t exactly keep your Morgans for long either 😉
That said, it’s pretty scary these days if you can’t even wear them out in public without worrying about getting mugged. That’s exactly why mine’s been locked away.
I have always worn my IWC Portugieser watch. Since my heart attack a few weeks ago, I have been wearing my Garmin sports watch. It has the same health functions as the Apple Watch, but I like it better.
Clemens, I wish you a speedy recovery so that you'll be fit and well again by springtime, ready to enjoy some lovely drives in your Morgan and wear your beautiful IWC Portugieser watch from time to time again!
I have always worn my IWC Portugieser watch. Since my heart attack a few weeks ago, I have been wearing my Garmin sports watch. It has the same health functions as the Apple Watch, but I like it better.
Not the best start to 2026 Clemens, wishing you a speedy recovery sir !
I have always worn my IWC Portugieser watch. Since my heart attack a few weeks ago, I have been wearing my Garmin sports watch. It has the same health functions as the Apple Watch, but I like it better.
Not the best start to 2026 Clemens, wishing you a speedy recovery sir !
+1
Get well soon.
Paul Costock, UK Plus Four 75th - Furka Rouge - Pip Disco 5 Teddy - 17h1 Irish Draught cross
Clemens I really like the IWC Portugieser 😍 It's very classy.😎 One of my colleagues received it as a gift for his 50th birthday, with the ivory dial—it's beautiful.❤️❤️❤️
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Must be the time of year- Angiogram for me last week, my first time in hospital other than as a visitor , v nervous making . Luckily the result seems ok
I usually wear an MHD Streamliner as it has the same designer as my 4/4 Sport. A couple of Seikos, an Oris of my father's Seamaster all need to be used more, and the Omega needs a good service, which may cost what it's worth. Apple Watch on the other wrist for health monitoring, but I can't wear it everywhere and I'm used to a mechanical watch on the left.
"this means the end of the horse-drawn Zeppelin!" - N Seagoon
Thought is that you should wear a watch on your non-dominant arm (which I don't agree with but that is the thought); so left handed people would wear their watch on the right hand.
So a left-handed watch would have the crown on the left side of the watch because the 'crown should point towards the persons fingers'.
And yes, there a lot of watches sold that offer the crown on the left side of the case, rather than the more common right side.
Clemens, I had a major heart attack ten years ago and have 8 stents!! I made a quick recovery aided by the use of an ebike. I was given a maximum heart rate of 110 while recovering which I monitored by use of a fitbit watch when out cycling, If my heart rate got to 90, I upped the power of the ebike and all was well. Some 6 months after the heart attack my cardiologist remarked on what he said was a recovery well ahead of expectations and I told him about my ebike wich allowed me to exercise while knowing i wasn't overdoing it. He now recommends the use of an ebike to all his post heart attack patients!!! I wish you a speedy recovery. Regards from Ireland
Clemens, I had a major heart attack ten years ago and have 8 stents!! I made a quick recovery aided by the use of an ebike. I was given a maximum heart rate of 110 while recovering which I monitored by use of a fitbit watch when out cycling, If my heart rate got to 90, I upped the power of the ebike and all was well. Some 6 months after the heart attack my cardiologist remarked on what he said was a recovery well ahead of expectations and I told him about my ebike wich allowed me to exercise while knowing i wasn't overdoing it. He now recommends the use of an ebike to all his post heart attack patients!!! I wish you a speedy recovery. Regards from Ireland
Thank you very much for sharing your experiences and advice, Robbie
Trying on the Rolex Land-dweller at the Rolex corner during the 2025 24 Hours of Le Mans. A very beautiful watch, I love this 70s style... but out of my budget
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I tend to wear my TAG Heuer Formula 1 On a daily basis. When my wife and I got married we bought each other watches, hers was an SEL TAG and mine A 6000 TAG. At the time I was working in the NHS and on its first day at work I scrubbed for an operation in theatre. I took my watch off and left it where all those who scrubbed would leave watches, rings etc, this was common practice. After the several hours of operating I went to pick my watch up....... Yep, it had gone! I Made all the usual enquiries of the staff present and the theatre reception to see if it had been handed in but nobody had seen it! The next day I had a strange phone call saying my watch had been left in the theatre reception and no one knew who had handed it in... just appeared on the managers desk. 'How did you know it was mine' I asked, Well its got your name on it came the reply. My wife, an Anaesthetist, Had had our surname engraved into the case side of the watch! I guess the thief noticed this on a later inspection so decided to take the safest route out. It was in the late 90's and TAG were at the height of their popularity. How ever it stopped me wearing it to work again. In the mid 2000's we moved to our current house and years of renovation work began, I didn't want to damage the watch so for a few years wore a swatch watch. One day whilst out shopping we came across a jewellers having a sale and a Formula 1 TAG in the window was reduced, I said to my wife I'm too old to be wearing Swatch watches and went in and bought it! Straight away it was put to hard use and I have hammered it! I still couldn't bring myself 'to wear/damage the 6000 and after 20 years of ownership I bought a second identical F1 watch as by then It was being discontinued and I'd got used to it on my wrist. When my son reached 18 I gave him my TAG heuer 6000 , that was 5 years ago now and he wears it every day and of course his name is engraved on the side of the case as it always has been, Kismet perhaps! My daughter who is 2 years younger, on reaching her 18th birthday we bought her a Tudor Rose watch!
I like watches.... not all, but that goes for everyone! What watch should you wear... well the one you most want of course! But, and here's the but! No one will notice what watch you are wearing. I guarantee that you can wear a Rolex submariner all your life and you might, just might have had one person say to you 'Oh I see you've got a Rolex' So remember when you are just about to pay for it... why are you buying it?
For me, I have only bought one further watch and that was in 2012. Then in my mid fifties I'd got to know quite a bit about the watch world, well the affordable world for me that is, And I had by then discovered that the best made watch for the money was an Omega..... NASA were definitely correct when they chose them for the luna program. Look up how they did it and why they chose Omega! Shortly before I bought my Omega, Omega had brought out the co-axial movement. This amongst the horologistic world is deemed as the finest movement ever made. The first of my collective decisions to look had been made, the second, I had inherited a gold seamaster from a close uncle.
And finally, I have always loved James Bond and from the time he started wearing Omega seamaster watches they had really grabbed my attention. I'd started to look at all the Bond special editions but when the planets aligned with the 50th anniversary with the co-axial movement I had to have one! OH YES! And guess what, I just can't allow myself to wear it! I swore I would never do that again but on several occasions I'd find myself with my arm thrashing about in an engine bay or in some ridiculous plumbing situation only to realise that I'd forgotten to take my limited edition Omega Seamaster off!!!@. ahhhhh! Looks like Fergus my son is up for another best watch then.... sooner or later. Ironically my wife treats my battered TAG formula 1 with the most reverence. Several times I have said to her that it's only my work watch, once I asked her why and she said "well it's your watch, it's a reflection of you and what you have achieved so to me it's the most special of any watch you have.
For the 3 wheelers… none, as it will be under weather proof clothing, or you will be too busy to look at your wrist!
Actually I have a watch display on the dash - currently a 1990s M&S quartz jobbie with a custom and now unavailable custom strap size and whose strap died from decomposing plastic disease. Replaced my EBay clock insert that needed a new battery. The cheap clock inserts are great but don’t like the vibration. I made the mistake of asking the EBay seller if he wanted the last one that died to send back the factory, on which he replied no and that only fools expected a cheap Chinese mechanism to stand up to a motorbike engine’s vibration! Fair enough!
I wear a small sundial. It is temperemental though. Works better with the roof down. Requires calculations to compensate for compass reading not being North. Works better when not cloudy. It was an optional extra from MMC described as a "state of the art design". It has a glass dome enclosure that mists up to match the gauges on the car.
There’ll be a Morgan branded wrist sundial before you know it…!!! The vital must have extra for the Morgan owner/enthusiast who must have absolutely every accessory….!!!!! It’s the obvious timepiece choice for Morgan owners…..!!! I bloody want one…..!!!!!!!!🤦🏻♂️😆
Come on Bonesie you have a readymade market just itching to purchase the Morgan drivers wrist sundial , bit of leather ,bit of timber, bit of alloy, perhaps once the first 100 were sold you could sell them all a matching compass to enable alignment so that it would actually work ......
On October 3rd, 1962, the Speedmaster CK 2998 became the first OMEGA worn in space, when the astronaut Walter Schirra wore his personal model on the Sigma 7 mission of the Mercury programme. This updated version is a tribute to that pioneering timepiece and captures the same 2nd generation Speedmaster style in modern form.
The 39.70 mm case is crafted in polished and brushed stainless steel and features a “flat links” bracelet with OMEGA’s patented comfort release adjustment system. The bezel ring is presented in black aluminium and includes the legendary tachymeter scale with an emblematic “Dot Over Ninety”.
Beneath the brand new hesalite-like form sapphire crystal, the grey-blue dial is CVD coated, to replicate the tone of some CK 2998 watches produced in the 1960s. Along with indexes and hour/minute “Alpha” hands that are filled with vintage Super-LumiNova, the central seconds “Baton” hand is white varnished to match the transferred markings. Subdials include a 30-minute recorder at 3H, a 12-hour recorder at 6H, and a small-seconds display at 9H.
A vintage OMEGA logo is applied on the dial, as well as on the crown, while the caseback features the famous Seahorse medallion, and the engravings, “THE FIRST OMEGA IN SPACE” and “OCTOBER 3, 1962”.
The watch is driven by the Co-Axial Master Chronometer Calibre 3861, which is the most up-to-date version of the Calibre 321 worn by astronauts in space. Each watch is delivered inside a special presentation box with a “LEGENDARY MOONWATCH” leaflet inside.
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Lille - France Sold : MTW 2012, 4-4 Sport 2010, Roadster V6 2008, Super3 2024 Plus Four 2024
In the winter I wear my Omega 2010 winter olympics special edition Seamaster, in the summer my Breitling Chronospace bought in 1986, first one sold in this country a nod to my flying days as it has a flight computer on the bezel not that my eyes can read it anymore DOH.
Nester, I would consider a waxing first. It would show the watches off more…….I hope you do that for your thongs and strings you mention in the other post. Just don’t wear any in London, watch or thong , please for safety.
Despite owning more than a dozen watches, I invariably forget to wear one, however I still lust over a A .Lang Sonne watch, wouldn't dare to wear it anywhere though.
I wasn't familiar with this young British brand: Bremont. The project is interesting The goal is clearly to create a rather high-end, 100% in-house manufactured watch :
I've just restrapped my Buren Intramatic with a nice tan leather strap. 1950's model, slim thin casing, black dial. Buren invented the automatic winding mechanism and were bought out by Hamilton, I think. A nice, understated watch versus modern big cased ones. Keeps good time and a clear easy to read dial/hands. A lottery win and it would probably be an Omega Moonwatch. Omega won the deal for the Apollo astronauts as it tested better than the alternatives. Hence the Moonwatch model. I believe the astronauts were presented with limited edition cars too. Corvettes.
I have a manual clock from a Russian Mig. Bought for me by sospan inr. He was out in Khazakstan on a short work project and got it for me. I started a mount for it for the Plus8 but not completed. Mechanical winder plus two timers. It also had electrical contacts on the back that I assume were for heating it. It.'s on a shelf at the moment. If I can find a big enough strap......
In driving mode, it looks like this. It’s a birthday gift from SWIMBO, but with the message that it has to be the last one. And it will be so because the drawer is full.
But never say never If one breaks down, Space becomes available 😉
Paul
1990 4/4 1.6 Ford CVH Sold 2014 +4 2.0 Ford 2005 BMW Z4 2.2 6Cyl Sold
I have a manual clock from a Russian Mig. Bought for me by sospan inr. He was out in Khazakstan on a short work project and got it for me. I started a mount for it for the Plus8 but not completed. Mechanical winder plus two timers. It also had electrical contacts on the back that I assume were for heating it. It.'s on a shelf at the moment. If I can find a big enough strap......
Way back when I lived in Warsaw I bought a Russian Mig fighters clock from the "Russian Market" which was held in the old football stadium on Saturday mornings. I had the choice of buying a Kalashnikov Rifle, hand grenades or the clock, I went safe with the clock. The market truly was the wild west you could buy anything and I mean anything you could also loose your life and certainly get robbed, but boy was it exciting.
Bruce 1964 4/4 Series V Comp (Megan) 1994 +8 (Maurice) tis no more 2013 M3W (Olga)
The market truly was the wild west you could buy anything and I mean anything you could also loose your life and certainly get robbed, but boy was it exciting.
Sounds like the 'Spoons in Rushden.
"Y mae dafad ddu ym mhob praidd" 1972 4/4, 1981 MGBGT, 1984 FLHT1340, 1980 XLH1000, 1990 ZX10
The market truly was the wild west you could buy anything and I mean anything you could also loose your life and certainly get robbed, but boy was it exciting.
Sounds like the 'Spoons in Rushden.
Or to be fair, the ‘Spoons pretty much anywhere
Tim H. 1986 4/4 VVTi Sport, 2002 LR Defender, 2022 Mini Cooper SE
Either my Chopard Mille Miglia GMT or an Apple Watch! The Smith clock in my 4/4 is sublime, precise and good readable, the clock in my PlusFour is difficult to read, especially in the dark. So effectively we never use that. Not everything is an improvement with Morgans....!!!
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Ruut Bianchi Morgan PlusFour 2023 Bentley Midnight Emerald Morgan 4/4 4-seater 1990 Royal Ivory
As the sole reason for owning Morgan's for me is for pleasure and totally losing yourself - a watch is an abomination on all levels and certainly not yet another willy waggling contest that surfaces on here with monotonous regularity.
Other views maybe available..
2009 4/4 Sport Henrietta 1999 Indigo Blue +8 2009 4/4 Sport Green prev 1993 Con Green +8 prev
As the sole reason for owning Morgan's for me is for pleasure and totally losing yourself - a watch is an abomination on all levels and certainly not yet another willy waggling contest that surfaces on here with monotonous regularity.
Other views maybe available..
My Chopard is my daily watch which was a present from my wife in 2010. When sporting I use something less vulnerable, so that is the AppleWatch already for many years. And often I use the AppleWatch when I don't want to be so careful. Why a watch then? Well as a medical doctor I did practice my outpatient wards for decades, and that means you have to keep up with the time. Endocrinologists see a lot of outpatients by the type of patients. So it has become a second nature to look at my watch regularly. Even now, semi-retired, with only a few patients from time to time. So I don't collect watches, I have an older IWC which I find very pretty, but as it eats Croco-straps and is relatively small, I don't use it. That's a bit of a pity. it is not a competition for me or status-related, I like the mechanic movements though, as I like Morgans!
Ruut Bianchi Morgan PlusFour 2023 Bentley Midnight Emerald Morgan 4/4 4-seater 1990 Royal Ivory
As the sole reason for owning Morgan's for me is for pleasure and totally losing yourself - a watch is an abomination on all levels and certainly not yet another willy waggling contest that surfaces on here with monotonous regularity.
Other views maybe available..
I had to smile, so often people sees things very differently from the true spirit of the collecting hobby involved in any ownership ritual,, be it watches, model railways etc. It's almost akin, in some peoples minds, as to why the need to own large gas guzzling V8's in ones Morgan. in a increasingly more intense speed controlled road environment. Where clearly a humble 4 pot engine would offer more than adequate means of propulsion,especially against a backdrop of climate change, I of course wouldn't dare to suggest it could also be considered a bit of willy waggling ....as they say each to their own and let those without sin, cast the first stone.
Coincidentally just had an ,interesting morning with my local Rolex dealer , looks like my long awaited blue dial Skydweller may arrive before too long.........and I rarely wear a watch these days, but .I'll probably wear that in the Morgan. Life's too short to worry too much about other people's interests and hobbies.......
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22 Plus Four KIMI 12 Plus 4 Sport OZZY 08 Roadster FELIX 06 4/4 70th LOKI 77 4/4 SEAMUS 85 4/4 MOLLY
John has hit the nail on the head with 3 words......... 'life's too short'........🤷🏻♂️
So.... if there's anything, anywhere or anyone that brings you joy...... crack on....👍🏼 We're not here long, we are of little consequence in the grand scheme of things and most of us make little impact on the planet while we're here.
So....... enjoy the moment, tomorrow isn't guaranteed.....🤷🏻♂️
I happen to like watches as well........ I've done the gratuitous willy wavers, I'm more subtle and understated now........😂😂 Omega are the brand I've always come back to, I've had a few........🤯😎
Not necessarily so, it's whatever floats your boat and my multigenerational (it made it throuh the 14/18 war at the front line and then again the 39/45 conflict on the front line in forefathers pockets RHA) Silver Hunter floats mine as it is a masterpiece in silversmithing and so glad I keep it with me most times but not in the Morgan, just my daily Rotary for most trips in them.
John intimated that V8 ownership is willy waggling, I think not as his most recent acquisition ( a humble 4 pot engine - it is not) could show it a clean pair of heels and is a quarter Century younger and worth considerably more
The Plus 8 affair for me started 55 years ago - the same year I met my wife to be and both desires have stood the test of time (53 years married) and unlike others I shall not be trading either in for a younger model
Like watches as with Plus 8's you either get it or you don't, the former no the later YES
2009 4/4 Sport Henrietta 1999 Indigo Blue +8 2009 4/4 Sport Green prev 1993 Con Green +8 prev
I get V8 desire, I was piped at the post for a Ferrari California a few weeks ago with the last of the naturally aspired 4.3 V8, a lot of car for the money and relatively good value compared with the CX..........
I looked at getting an auto trad, there's a Plus 4 4 seater converted to auto been for sale for a few years now however following the discussions with the gearbox suppliers to Morgan, the spares supply was woefully limited or non existent eg the dedicated wiring harness and could be problematic in the future, otherwise I'd probably be driving a auto trad now. The CX is a step up for Morgan, probably represents bettter value second hand than new, but that in part is the priviledge of exercising choice.
The things we convince ourselves are so importanrt to our lifes, all first world problems, I'm sure.
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22 Plus Four KIMI 12 Plus 4 Sport OZZY 08 Roadster FELIX 06 4/4 70th LOKI 77 4/4 SEAMUS 85 4/4 MOLLY
John has hit the nail on the head with 3 words......... 'life's too short'........🤷🏻♂️
So.... if there's anything, anywhere or anyone that brings you joy...... crack on....👍🏼 We're not here long, we are of little consequence in the grand scheme of things and most of us make little impact on the planet while we're here.
So....... enjoy the moment, tomorrow isn't guaranteed.....🤷🏻♂️
I happen to like watches as well........ I've done the gratuitous willy wavers, I'm more subtle and understated now........😂😂 Omega are the brand I've always come back to, I've had a few........🤯😎
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Omega back in the 60's (still very much the case) was one of the top notch leading brands, eg the first watch on the moon dare I say it more exclusive than Rolex at that time... Whereas Rolex was a low volume mass produced 'not paricularily sophisticated and for many a 'tool' watch for submariners etc. along with the many other great makes. It's only clever marketing, key product placement and strategic supply control that has elevated it's status and resultant desireability........at one point Rolex where standard issue to the more elite UK armed forces and it's rumoured to stop them falling into civilian hands a whole bunch of them when decommisioned, where placed in a container of concrete and sunk in a harbour.........which needless to say made the military version that did make it into the civilian world highly chased, prized and now extremely valuable.................
22 Plus Four KIMI 12 Plus 4 Sport OZZY 08 Roadster FELIX 06 4/4 70th LOKI 77 4/4 SEAMUS 85 4/4 MOLLY
I love mechanical watches and I wear them for me, not anyone else (the same can be said for a car). I appreciate the craftsmanship: from a factory built, inexpensive, Vostok Amphibia, that feels like it is made from recycled soviet era tin cans, all the way up to hand crafted, one man band, time piece, each one has charm and appeal.
However, and perhaps like Morgans, watches are often over looked by the younger generations and it isn't rare to hear "why do I need a watch, I've got a phone to tell time!"
The second tier to that conversation are people who wear an inexpensive digital watch (Casio F-91) and don't understand why you'd need/want anything else.
Quite possible not dissimilar to the argument as to why you need a Morgan when an econo box can get you there and, at times, in better comfort, and less chance of issue.
Quite possible not dissimilar to the argument as to why you need a Morgan when an econo box can get you there and, at times, in better comfort, and less chance of issue.
It either speaks to you or it doesn't.
A Morgan is a monument to irrationality. So is an expensive watch - and so is a nicely kept garden, or a lover's favour or a home for stray dogs. If rationality were the criterion for things being allowed to exist, the world would be one gigantic field of soya beans!
My Sekonda wind up which my parents bought me for my 12th birthday (or) the gold Rotary watch which was presented to ny Taid on his retirement from Thos Ward in 1971, passed down to me on my Dads death.
I mostly wear a digital Lorus as it is robust enough and inexpensive for gardening, DIY and doing jobs on the Mog. I have a couple of reasonable watches and the gold Tudor I was given on my 21st when we are going out. I'm not bothered about expensive watches they only tell the time as do mine.
My Sekonda wind up which my parents bought me for my 12th birthday (or) the gold Rotary watch which was presented to ny Taid on his retirement from Thos Ward in 1971, passed down to me on my Dads death.
My Sekonda wind up which my parents bought me for my 12th birthday (or) the gold Rotary watch which was presented to ny Taid on his retirement from Thos Ward in 1971, passed down to me on my Dads death.
I don't need anything else!
Arwyn
Thomas Ward of Sheffield ?
Yes, he worked for the Darwen and Mostyn Iron Company as an engineer (having been apprenticed to Sentinel in Shrewsbury). Darwen and Mostyn specialised in making spiegeleisen, ferromanganese, silicon spiegel, silicious iron and chrome iron. These were produced largely from foreign ores discharged from vessels into Mostyn Docks.
Sometime around the early sixties, Darwen and Mostyn was bought by Thos Ward.
My Sekonda wind up which my parents bought me for my 12th birthday (or) the gold Rotary watch which was presented to ny Taid on his retirement from Thos Ward in 1971, passed down to me on my Dads death.
I don't need anything else!
Arwyn
Thomas Ward of Sheffield ?
Yes, he worked for the Darwen and Mostyn Iron Company as an engineer (having been apprenticed to Sentinel in Shrewsbury). Darwen and Mostyn specialised in making spiegeleisen, ferromanganese, silicon spiegel, silicious iron and chrome iron. These were produced largely from foreign ores discharged from vessels into Mostyn Docks.
Sometime around the early sixties, Darwen and Mostyn was bought by Thos Ward.
My Sekonda wind up which my parents bought me for my 12th birthday (or) the gold Rotary watch which was presented to ny Taid on his retirement from Thos Ward in 1971, passed down to me on my Dads death.
I don't need anything else!
Arwyn
Thomas Ward of Sheffield ?
Yes, he worked for the Darwen and Mostyn Iron Company as an engineer (having been apprenticed to Sentinel in Shrewsbury). Darwen and Mostyn specialised in making spiegeleisen, ferromanganese, silicon spiegel, silicious iron and chrome iron. These were produced largely from foreign ores discharged from vessels into Mostyn Docks.
Sometime around the early sixties, Darwen and Mostyn was bought by Thos Ward.
Arwyn
Wow, small world
We have a few relatives & friends who worked for TW Sheffield, they strangest was my wife's friend who worked at head office in the hairdressing salon - they had their own for the office staff because the company was so big
I think My Aero 8 S5 is the only car I have ever owned with a "proper" analog clock integrated into the dash as standard. (NB - never had a Rolls or a Bentley !).
Much easier than trying to look at my wrist
Much Much Much easier than trying to ask the wife what time it is !
The definition of being old is when aspirations turn into regrets.
Not seeing it as an improvement even if I can "select" my chosen model. Bit like the EQE/EQS as a whole. Have you seen the way the secondhand prices go on those, have a scotch handy when you look!
Still I can just shout "Siri whats the time" over the music and it will tell me via CarPlay.
Everyone loves a Morgan. Even me, unless it's broken again.
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