[quote=Almond]|Moogie, I'm not a frequent poster here but felt I had to second your comments about the Plus Six. You are spot on. The issue with driving the Plus Six is a lot more complex than just having a sensitive right foot and being careful. Having had a number of high performance cars, 911s, Cayman etc and even higher performance motorcycles I was very much looking forward to my test drive in the Plus Six. I jumped stright out of my Plus 8 Speedster and into the Six. The difference was huge with the Plus 8 being quick but always very manageable and easy to drive fast (even in the wet) whereas the Plus Six was stupendously fast but I felt without the feedback/connection and feeling of control necessary. I also believe the difficulty for the Plus Six is exactly as you say Moogie - huge torque, variable degrees of lag and dificult to predict downshifting from the AT when you apply an additional few mm more throttle. I had extensive experince of a simlar engine in my 440i with Sports pack (365hp) but I felt that the gear shifting map was much better calibrated and better matched the car (mass, rolling resistance etc.). Whilst I can understand (perhaps even accept) Morgan's lack of budget to integrate driver aids that are common place in much cheaper cars, what I really do struggle with is how Morgan don't appear to have the resource to perform the full integration of engines/transmissions from other manufacturers in their cars. Plus Six is a case in point. Roadster 3.7 anyone? [quote]
I have a 3.7 Roadster with the ECU upgrade, which gives it about 300 BHP. I consider this probably too much power for the trad chassis but it keeps me entertained, so to speak. One has to be particularly careful when driving in a “sporting” manner. On the track it it a super car which, with the suspension upgrades done, handles predictively to an “experienced” driver. By “experienced” I mean someone who is used to driving a car quickly without the standard electronic aids found now on most modern cars. That is why I love owning and driving a Morgan.
I might yet be interested in one of the new CX Morgans but only the Plus Four. I think that the 2 litre is the right size and power for the Morgan and do not see what advantage the 3 litre offers as the 2 litre is plenty fast. Also, I would not be interested in an automatic gearbox as I like to be in control and want the manual connection.
I agree with all that Peter J and Moogie have said and copy hereunder what I originally posted on the Facebook ad which gave rise to this thread, as it seems to be hidden, and concurs with a lot that is being said and expressed here.
My fear is that the Plus Six May be giving all Morgans a bad reputation and insurance companies might start charging us all more in premiums as a result. The first Porsche 911 Turbo soon acquired the nickname of the “widow maker” after it was making headlines for getting wrapped around trees with fatal results. I sincerely hope that the Plus Six doesn’t follow suit.
Copy of what I posted on the Facebook ad -
Richard Lomax
“ David Tuckey It’s the new Morgan Plus 6, no longer built with a ladder frame chassis (as all previous “traditional” Morgans) which if it had, could be fixed. These new cars have an aluminium monocoque chassis which, when in a shunt, will buckle and be rendered an insurance write off being too expensive and probably incapable of being fixed. Hence why the car is in a breaker’s yard for parts. If you look at the photographs you will see that it has been in an accident; no flood damage there.
This is one of a few Plus Sixes which have ended up being wrapped around something, such as a tree, as they have incredible performance with none of the traction control aids etc (apart from ABS brakes) which drivers have become used to and which stop them from crashing their Audi, Porsche or Ferrari, mainly, as it still does happen. However, the Morgan requires a great deal of skill to drive quickly and keep it from an unfortunate ending. This car will not be the last to meet the same fate as the people who are buying these cars have, largely, only ever driven more sophisticated cars such as those mentioned above and which have saved them from embarrassing moments, without them ever being aware.
Sad to see though.“
Last edited by rid967; 01/07/20 11:19 AM.
