I guess he combination of driver ability ( lack of) combined with possible auto box issues is one that is the cause. The temptation of top of the range car with that power can put unsympathetic drivers out of their depth. The theory of the overreacting auto box dropping down too many gears and thus delivering high torque to the rear sounds a deadly effect. Seems like a manual box is better suited unless an upgrade can be done to manage the box response better. The Plus4 looks a better combination in a manual format. I’d opt for the manual. My trad Plus8 sometimes feels like an auto in that the torque allows fewer gear changes unless you need to. It took a few trips to adjust to the feel after my 4/4. Learning to have a lighter right foot exiting roundabouts, especially in the wet or using a higher gear to limit torque were the key factors.
