Talk Morgan Forums Community Vehicle Talk (non-Morgan) E10

I would have thought the most natural thing to do for those that have any concerns over E10 petrol (which will be readily available) would be to alternative fill ups between E10 and super unleaded. And if storing over winter make sure it's filled with super unleaded to reduce the potential water separation whilst in storage. I never unless going on a long journey allow my tank to go much below half full , so alternating petrol types will in theory give me something equivalent to combined E5 petrol (assuming super leaded has no E in it). The big unknown will be how long super unleaded will continue to be readily available and as I understand it the Government's intentions with regard to increasing beyond E10 to force petrol cars off the road.

I've now swapped to using StarTron Enzyme.

Is the Star Tron's Enzyme Fuel Treatment for leaded petrol engines?

No, it's not a lead replacement additive. You need something like valvemaster for that.

So, I'm a little late to this party.

Is it ok to fill my 4/4 CVH engine with E10, or should I avoid it?

Stick in some StarTron every so often and you should be ok

I dont see this. Sure we use something similar to deal with the end result of minor amounts of water in diesel in the boat - to break down the sludge that forms at the water / fuel interface. However, this additive and any other for that matter, wont stop the 10% ethyl alcohol rotting the rubber pipes and seals which arent alcohol resistant. Not to mention plastic tanks as Ducati used and which distorted heavily in the USA.Or the pipes in my chain saw and strimmer.

Further debate in a more appropriate place here: http://www.talkmorgan.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/711033/e10-fuel

Whilst I do understand the concept of the E-number in unleaded fuel as well as the RON and the benefits both have for an engine, combined with the additional additives that the fuel companies put in their higher-performance versions, I am lacking in similar knowledge about Diesel fuel. Therefore my comments and questions are as follows:

1. I always use the higher-performance version available. Until recently I was very much a Shell V-Power man and have recently switch completely to Esso Synergy Supreme +99 as Esso clearly state that in most of the UK there is zero Ethanol in this fuel. I even use this in my lawnmower as it lasts far longer in the tank which is very helpful over the winter.

2. I have therefore blindly used the equivalent higher-performance Diesel in my Range Rover, however I have no idea what the B-number is and as Diesel doesn't have a RON I am beginning to wonder if there is a similar benefit in paying the extra for the allegedly better fuel. Is anyone able to assist me in understanding a little more about the make up and differences between regular Diesel and, say V-Power Diesel so I can make a more informed choice?

I only use Q8 Hi Perform (or Hi Q) Diesel in the Jaguar despite now costing over €2 a litre. My previous experience with the Alfa Romeo Crosswagon was that under acceleration with normal diesel there was an emmision of black fumes, presumably fine carbon particles (no particle filter back then), but with the Hi Perform Diesel the were no visible fumes.
It is highly subjective but I also think that there is a slight increase in power and a lower consumption. Certainly it burns cleaner. In fact I am surprised that legislation does not require the use of the cleaner, premium diesel in passenger cars.