Yep, big shift. But those stalagmites in the cave 400 feet under water were all broken off at an angle of about 20 degrees and then the new ones formed which were also very large and that means they formed before the water was present. Those are a great record of a long ago cataclysm. If a 20 degree tilt took place I wonder what else on the planet was thrown into a different position.

Last edited by LightSpeed; 04/05/19 09:22 PM.
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