Originally Posted by Hamwich
Originally Posted by PeterG
I have no bloody idea what that solution is and I'm sad to say neither do the medical professionals or the Government or any Politician for that matter it appears to me anyway.



What I genuinely can't understand is why we don't simply do what other similar countries have done. It's clear that the strategies we have employed up to now have done markedly less well than similar countries both in terms of death avoidance and in avoidance of economic damage.

If we don't know what to do, why don't we copy those that do?


Its simply not correct to say " markedly less well" though I understand where you get the idea from with the barrage of media negativity. For example out death rate per 100k is much the same as Italy.Cases per 100k is a bit more than Italy but less than France. Tests are way double either country. Current active cases are well below France and much the same as Italy. No doubt you can find some places that have done better and others that have done worse - have a look at worldometer

But there arent similar countries to make easy comparisons. population density is an issue for example, particulalry in the UK where there are large areas with low desnity ( Scotland) and others like the SE that are human ant heaps. Then there is the issue of medical competence in hospitals - is the NHS as competent as the German equivalent for example, or are we deceiving ourselves as usual. Plus of course the issue of a compliant rule obeying society - are we as good at following orders as the Germans for example, or are we more like Italians?

There really are only two ends to this epidemic. Either we get herd immunity at a high enough level for it to become an irritating but unimportant problem or we get a vaccine. Seperation / distancing is only a delaying tactic which cannot ever defeat the virus and the public's willingness to comply with distancing rules in masks etc diminishes with time. We arent a police state and when the general public decide they have had enough and start to ignore the rules as many are noiw doing, there simply is no way of putting the genie back in the bottle. People on here can rant as much as they like about the oiks ( or whatever) who flout the rules but the latter will simply say "up you" as they see the comfortable middle classes telling everyone else what to do. .

Last edited by howard; 24/09/20 01:09 PM.