Originally Posted by Fuel.inj
Originally Posted by Gambalunga
Originally Posted by sospan
As an interim a PHEV makes more sense than the self charge hybrid......................

A plugin hybrid is the only solution that I would even consider for the moment.
A full BEV would, for me, only be suitable for the shopping trolley. Any car needed for long distance travel would need to be "recharged" in minutes, at the moment my choice is diesel smile as it produces less CO2 (than petrol) , has better mileage, and having an fine particle filter and AdBlue has other pollution nasties under control.
Naturally the Morgan is exempted drive

Don’t believe it Peter, more services, poor residual values, buying all these additives, a narrow power band, and sounds like you have Buddy Rich under the bonnet. You can keep your diesel thank you.

Service intervals on modern cars are fairly long so I am not too worried about that, once out of warranty I don't use the ridiculously expensive dealer anyway. Residual values don't worry me too much either as I tend to keep cars for about 10 years at which point I would be a bit cautious about buying a used BEV so I suppose others would be too. I suppose residual values on BEVs that are changed every couple of years are probably fairly good but when they start getting to the point where the batteries start to deteriorate the value must drop like a stone. Invariably the BEV version of a model of car cost significantly more in the first place so is out of the reach of many potential buyers even after various government subsidies and concessions are taken into consideration.
Speaking of "various government subsidies and concessions" the real cost of these ultimately falls on the ordinary tax payer who does not have the opportunity to deduct vehicle running costs from their tax obligations in any case, so it is another example of the poor subsidising the rich wink
As for narrow power band the engine in the Jag is 1,999 cc developing 132 kW (180 PS) @ 4,000rpm and 430 N⋅m (317 lb⋅ft) @ 1,750 – 2,500rpm, and don't forget that diesel engines tend to run a lower rpm than petrol engines. I find that adequate for a family touring car.
As for engine noise you hardly even hear it inside the car and whatever it sounds like to someone on the footpath I don't really care. If I want to listen to engine and exhaust (and intake) sounds I have the Morgan laugh
The AdBlue costs about €24 for a fill which lasts about 15,000 km so that is not a real problem either.
So the Jag stays for at least another 4 years, by that time I will be 80 so I just hope that I don't have to trade it in on a mobility scooter which might be the only BEV that I will ever own. rofl


Peter

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