John ... indeed semi-autos are a halfway house (and can be driven on an auto licence ... just not anything with a clutch) ..... though in the same way Morgan driving differs from Audi driving in its sense of engagement, so a clutch and manual shift differs from a paddle auto in terms of driver engagement .... happy to acknowledge that I'm increasingly in the minority when it comes to such things. We do seem to have a generation on the way that see cars as 'meh!' If not downright the Devil's work so the finer points of gearchanging may soon be moot. 🙂

K